If u spend most your time on gravel, it will be better then pavement. U cant beat tracks in soft conditions. But when its frozen or dry, tracks are very rough, shake everything and dont bite like tires.
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so you have had good luck with the tracks that go over the tires?
I still haven't closed on this place so I have at least a month to think about it. Then it is off to the races to fix the drainage and try and dig a foundation for my real shop before it gets too cold to pour a floor (so sometime in Sept
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I still haven't closed on this place so I have at least a month to think about it. Then it is off to the races to fix the drainage and try and dig a foundation for my real shop before it gets too cold to pour a floor (so sometime in Sept
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Very hard.
If you take a CAT CTL/MTL in for service and the emissons stuff was somehow removed they won't let it leave until it is replaced.
No thanks.
The D-series CATs use Kubota engines now which are leaps and bounds better than the C-series engines that were used and that is what Bobcat M-series have as well. More HP/TQ and lower fuel consumption and quieter as well.
I wouldn't choose a skid steer over a tracked machine any day of the year. Even in wet/heavy snow the T770 does fine. We plow a 10 acre semi-hub on 3-4 hours with the T770 and S770 with a 9' blade and a 101" snow bucket.
Yes i have had good luck with over the tires style steel tracks. I have no issues with them. I also still own a t300. But i totally disagree, tracks can be used for snow, we also use them, but out tire machines do it better. Not even close. They also do it way smootherfor the driver.
Been landscaping/excavating myself for my/fathers business for 22yrs and my dad has owned the business for 34yrs. These are just my opinions on what ive learned over the years. Tracks can be used everywhere tires can, in soft area's they win handsdown, snow and pavement tires win, hands down. Same reason we use end loaders and not d8's for our big lots.
Been landscaping/excavating myself for my/fathers business for 22yrs and my dad has owned the business for 34yrs. These are just my opinions on what ive learned over the years. Tracks can be used everywhere tires can, in soft area's they win handsdown, snow and pavement tires win, hands down. Same reason we use end loaders and not d8's for our big lots.
U will be very happy with any machine from the bobcat lines. Tracks or tires, u wont be disappointed. For u with the machine never leaving the property, and wet conditions, tracka sound like a must for u regardless if its a T-series like a 770 or a s or m series with over the tire steel tracks.
Make sure they dont talk u into a tooth bucket they recommend, or atleast find out what your getting for the price when u order, when we got our 750 dropped off from the dealer, it came with a 76in bucket. We run 80-84in everyday for dirt and have no issues.
Make sure they dont talk u into a tooth bucket they recommend, or atleast find out what your getting for the price when u order, when we got our 750 dropped off from the dealer, it came with a 76in bucket. We run 80-84in everyday for dirt and have no issues.
We use one of those New Holland boomer tractors for small yard work on the farm. Really should have a bobcat though, they're my favorite for landscaping and such. We used a new holland skid steer for a while too. Also a very nice machine, let me run out and see what model the tractor is..
If you go tire machine Grouser makes a great over the tire steel track setup and they can be rebuilt. Look for them on CL used if you can wait it out, bolts, nuts and bushings are not that expensive.
If you decide to go with the track machine, look into the snow tracks Bobcat offers, night and day difference. You wouldn't have to use the Bobcat brand if you didn't want to as the aftermarket world sells them now as well.
When it comes to inspecting the U/C on a track machine look for the obvious sprocket wear(teeth coming to a sharp point). If you see this the tracks are most likely worn out as well. It is always a good idea to put new sprockets on if replacing tracks unless the sprocket is in good shape. Check the wear surface of the idlers and rollers. Honestly, when it comes to the U/C the wear parts are somewhat expensive but what you can't see is the real issue...the drive motors. If you wanted to get real serious, take the machine to a dealer and have the pressures checked as a drive motor is pry over $4K these days.
Good luck and let me know if you have any other questions.
If you decide to go with the track machine, look into the snow tracks Bobcat offers, night and day difference. You wouldn't have to use the Bobcat brand if you didn't want to as the aftermarket world sells them now as well.
When it comes to inspecting the U/C on a track machine look for the obvious sprocket wear(teeth coming to a sharp point). If you see this the tracks are most likely worn out as well. It is always a good idea to put new sprockets on if replacing tracks unless the sprocket is in good shape. Check the wear surface of the idlers and rollers. Honestly, when it comes to the U/C the wear parts are somewhat expensive but what you can't see is the real issue...the drive motors. If you wanted to get real serious, take the machine to a dealer and have the pressures checked as a drive motor is pry over $4K these days.
Good luck and let me know if you have any other questions.
Andrew this should handle all your dirt work needs...
Or maybe one of these?:thumb:
The front idler is the worst to wear on the bobcat tracks. We have worn our till they have many flat sides instead of perfectly round. We usually rebuild them with hard facing and then take them to a machine shop and made round again.
Looking into it more I see the standard cat out works the standard flow bobcat, but the hi aux flow bobcat flows a lot more. Also noted that the bobcat can lift more, but seems like the cat might be a little better at pushing. I think it might come down to price, most of the hard work will be with the bushhog and a dozer blade so don't care about the lifting so much
I can show you what to twist to make it lift more... Problem is they like to tip over then
We have 4 299d cat high flows at work. There pretty sweet IMO, but not for the price tag. IIRC the company payed ~150k for each
The Cat is going to be more money, no way around it... I have worked on Bobcat's and Caterpillar is a superior machine but it shows in the price tag as well. That being said if you found a Bobcat that was clean for a good price I wouldn't be scared of it. Stop into the Dealers you have around you they will most likely have rental machines for sale & trade ins. Might find a decent deal?
Any of you have experience with Komatsu D31s?
http://www.machinerytrader.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=9290617
Thinking this and a small 4x4 tractor with a loader will work better for me
http://www.machinerytrader.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=9290617
Thinking this and a small 4x4 tractor with a loader will work better for me
Not that model or one that old. For your purpose it would be fine IMO, but for like legit road jobs and such, i prefer cat.