realistic LLY stock turbo 1/4's

[Redbowties88]

so before the start of the season this year i should have built trans. just curious what everyone thinks is a realistic time for me to shoot for at the track. 6900-7000lbs as it sits, 265's, caltracs, tracks at sea level. hoping to pull at least 1.6 60' times. may be able to shed a little more weight

i know ricks lly went 12.2 on #2 only but i bet hes lighter then me by a good amount.

12.5-12.6 reasonable? i would be really happy if i could pull off a 12.5

its a cc/sb

 

[JoshH]

I know it may seem easy, but you'll be doing good to get anything in the 12s.

 

[TheBac]

12.5 is a reasonable goal. Who's tuning?

 

[Redbowties88]

I know it may seem easy, but you'll be doing good to get anything in the 12s.

i know but i mean once its all dialed and everyting...ive been struggling for the past 2 years to break into the 13s om my burnt stock trans....its like 14.0 is mocking me

12.5 is a reasonable goal. Who's tuning?

nick does my tuning

 

[05dmaxdriver]

high 12's should be a good goal IMHO

 

[Redbowties88]

high 12's wold be nice. mid twelves would be better:thumb:

 

[paint94979]

by the pictures in your avatar your truck is lifted? chances are you will lose .1-.3 right off the bat... Elevation plays a HUGE role in how your truck performs. 12.5 at 6900 hp is not a realistic number. 12.8 is... Ricks truck also cuts low 1.5 60's that is very uncommon . once you actually start trying to drop ET it gets very tough just ask me LOL. Remember the numbers don't always convert from paper to real life

 

[JoshH]

by the pictures in your avatar your truck is lifted? chances are you will lose .1-.3 right off the bat... Elevation plays a HUGE role in how your truck performs. 12.5 at 6900 hp is not a realistic number. 12.8 is... Ricks truck also cuts low 1.5 60's that is very uncommon . once you actually start trying to drop ET it gets very tough just ask me LOL. Remember the numbers don't always convert from paper to real life

If I had 6900 HP, I better be able to run a 12.5

 

[paint94979]

If I had 6900 HP, I better be able to run a 12.5

LOL 6900 lbs

 

[McRat]

For the guy who isn't hardcore, is running a LLY CC/SB 4x4, 4" exhaust, shim-mod, built trans, liftpump, at a typical dragstrip, the average is going to be about 13.2 @ 99 in my opinion.

It took us 475rwhp in Casper to run our first "tune-only" 12, which was a 12.85? but that was back in the days of stacking with harness boxes.

 

[Redbowties88]

by the pictures in your avatar your truck is lifted? chances are you will lose .1-.3 right off the bat... Elevation plays a HUGE role in how your truck performs. 12.5 at 6900 hp is not a realistic number. 12.8 is... Ricks truck also cuts low 1.5 60's that is very uncommon . once you actually start trying to drop ET it gets very tough just ask me LOL. Remember the numbers don't always convert from paper to real life

no thats an old pic....its actually lowered now

For the guy who isn't hardcore, is running a LLY CC/SB 4x4, 4" exhaust, shim-mod, built trans, liftpump, at a typical dragstrip, the average is going to be about 13.2 @ 99 in my opinion.

It took us 475rwhp in Casper to run our first "tune-only" 12, which was a 12.85? but that was back in the days of stacking with harness boxes.

as far as hardcore goes, im at the track almost every week i can. I know i not a "big boy" yet still running a stock turbo but i plan on changing that down the road as money allows

i plan on running the hottest tune nick can give me so i figure i should be good for at least 530RWHP hopefully a few hairs more....i haven't reweighed since i pulled my leafs apart and ditched the spare. ive also never weighed it without the tailgate and tonneau cover. i should be able to get her down to the 6800lbs range hopfully but it is a fully loaded CC truck and i weight 200 so its never gonna be too great weight wise.

full list of mods are,
EFI by Nick
Banks intake with LBZ mouthpiece
straightpipe exhaust
ppe lift pump
caltracs
trutrac 11.5
only running 2 rear leafs per side and drop keys so shes on the low side
sleeves/braces

before race season starts i plan on also adding good adjustable shocks to help with the 60' i dont think 1.5 will be completely impossible (though unlikey) but i dont see hitting low 1.6's as being farfetched at all

plus i know being at sea level helps so i dont think ill have a hard time (least not too hard) running 12's its just how deep that im wondering. again i dont expect any magic i know its not an overnight thing but i would eventually really really like to have this thing doing mid twelves stock turbo

 

[paint94979]

i plan on running the hottest tune nick can give me so i figure i should be good for at least 530RWHP hopefully a few hairs more.

Once again i hope you reach your goal BUT 530hp on a stock turbo LLY is not realistic... there is only so much hp that your truck will allow sadly the LLY's in a tune only application is the slowest there is. Like Pat said 475hp is realistic... what elevation are you at? get a built trans run a 12 then you can see where you need improving... there are SO many variables in running well, hell even break in tolerances could come into play. You may have a "freak" truck or you have a dud LOL my buddy ran 12.56 @ 106 stock turbo LMM at as close to sea level as you could get... Matt sikdmax ran 13.3's with a stock turbo LMM with basically the same exact modifications. There are hundreds of these types of threads "What will I run?" no one knows truthfully

 

[JoshH]

Once again i hope you reach your goal BUT 530hp on a stock turbo LLY is not realistic... there is only so much hp that your truck will allow sadly the LLY's in a tune only application is the slowest there is. Like Pat said 475hp is realistic... what elevation are you at? get a built trans run a 12 then you can see where you need improving... there are SO many variables in running well, hell even break in tolerances could come into play. You may have a "freak" truck or you have a dud LOL my buddy ran 12.56 @ 106 stock turbo LMM at as close to sea level as you could get... Matt sikdmax ran 13.3's with a stock turbo LMM with basically the same exact modifications. There are hundreds of these types of threads "What will I run?" no one knows truthfully

I agree. Like I said. Just running a 12 is a realistic goal. Anything below that is just icing on the cake.

 

[paint94979]

before race season starts i plan on also adding good adjustable shocks to help with the 60' i dont think 1.5 will be completely impossible (though unlikey) but i dont see hitting low 1.6's as being farfetched at all

Once again there are lots of variables... your local track might not prep there tracks for shit so good 60's might be tough. I have ran at 3 tracks now Redding for an NHRDA event the track prep was pathetic guys with drag radials cutting 1.7-1.8's when usually they are in the 1.5's.. The second was Infineon Raceway a decently prepped track but i have never been in the 1.'6s there. My preferred track is Sacramento on any given day i go out there and be in the 1.65's on street tires. Best advice i can give is hope for 13.0's if you run 12.9 be happy if you run 13.0 then you will be satisfied for your first time out.

 

[Redbowties88]

Once again i hope you reach your goal BUT 530hp on a stock turbo LLY is not realistic... there is only so much hp that your truck will allow sadly the LLY's in a tune only application is the slowest there is. Like Pat said 475hp is realistic... what elevation are you at? get a built trans run a 12 then you can see where you need improving... there are SO many variables in running well, hell even break in tolerances could come into play. You may have a "freak" truck or you have a dud LOL my buddy ran 12.56 @ 106 stock turbo LMM at as close to sea level as you could get... Matt sikdmax ran 13.3's with a stock turbo LMM with basically the same exact modifications. There are hundreds of these types of threads "What will I run?" no one knows truthfully

Im at sea level....

so i though the lly turbo had a slightly larger compressor and could flow a little bit more air then the lbz/lmm turbos

i do understand that there are 1000x variables but im trying to dial this down fast as i can before i make the jump to a twin setup

 

[Redbowties88]

Once again there are lots of variables... your local track might not prep there tracks for shit so good 60's might be tough. I have ran at 3 tracks now Redding for an NHRDA event the track prep was pathetic guys with drag radials cutting 1.7-1.8's when usually they are in the 1.5's.. The second was Infineon Raceway a decently prepped track but i have never been in the 1.'6s there. My preferred track is Sacramento on any given day i go out there and be in the 1.65's on street tires. Best advice i can give is hope for 13.0's if you run 12.9 be happy if you run 13.0 then you will be satisfied for your first time out.

my local track actually preps pretty well only problem is i HAVE to drive through the waterbox..which is annoying


ive made lots of passes im pretty good at getting a feel for the track and making the best of the grip available

 

[paint94979]

Im at sea level....

so i though the lly turbo had a slightly larger compressor and could flow a little bit more air then the lbz/lmm turbos

i do understand that there are 1000x variables but im trying to dial this down fast as i can before i make the jump to a twin setup

the LLY truck itself is the most restrictive when comparing induction systems... Why do you think we all went to an LBZ mouthpiece Also what about tires? Tires matter. If you're in the quest for 1.5 60's Drag Radials are in your future i have personally NEVER heard of street tires in the 1.5's regardless of suspension not saying it isn't possible just highly improbable

 

[Redbowties88]

the LLY truck itself is the most restrictive when comparing induction systems... Why do you think we all went to an LBZ mouthpiece Also what about tires? Tires matter. If you're in the quest for 1.5 60's Drag Radials are in your future i have personally NEVER heard of street tires in the 1.5's regardless of suspension not saying it isn't possible just highly improbable

im on street tires now with the factory pyo rims....

ive been thinking about picking up a set of drag radials but for not 1.6's on street tires will make me happy

also i dont expect anyone to tell me "your truck wil run xx.xxx" in just looking to see whats realistic.

i only have hopes for mid 12's because ive heard of other trucks doing that or better....so i figure if they can..with enough work i should be able to at least come close. im not looking to just show up at the track and run a 12.x first time out

 

[SteveFord]

You also need to be able to read your logs and make changes to what fits your truck. No truck runs the same with the same tunning as another. The small things you do can really help your chances. Limit front end travel, keep the back end from bouncing, tcm tunning helps too. Good luck!

 

[Redbowties88]

You also need to be able to read your logs and make changes to what fits your truck. No truck runs the same with the same tunning as another. The small things you do can really help your chances. Limit front end travel, keep the back end from bouncing, tcm tunning helps too. Good luck!

thanks man, yea i plan on doing lots of logging and getting it back to nick so we can squeeze every last drop outta this sucker