Proper fluid in the Allison

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What about those of us who put TRANSYND in when we built ours? I'm not running huge HP numbers on mine, but I do have the ALTO clutches in it. Should I swap over to DEX 3, or is there an additive I should add in with the TRANSYND? I've got about 4000 miles on it now, and besides the TCM quirks it works fine.
 

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What about those of us who put TRANSYND in when we built ours? I'm not running huge HP numbers on mine, but I do have the ALTO clutches in it. Should I swap over to DEX 3, or is there an additive I should add in with the TRANSYND? I've got about 4000 miles on it now, and besides the TCM quirks it works fine.

You are absolutely fine with TranSynd.
 

PhilsLB7

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Mike L. - What is the difference between MERCON and DEXRON fluids? I am currently using Mobil 1 Synthetic ATF (MERCON V) in the trans. Did I make a mistake?
 

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Mike L. will correct me if I'm wrong, or add in if I'm not extensive enough, but IIRC Mercon is a Ford rating and Dextron is a GM rating? Not sure about the differences in characteristics of the oil itself though...
 

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Mike L. - What is the difference between MERCON and DEXRON fluids? I am currently using Mobil 1 Synthetic ATF (MERCON V) in the trans. Did I make a mistake?

I don't think there is much difference if any between Mercon/Dexron. The trans industry has been using a Dex/Merc blend in everything for years.
Now Mercon V and Mercon SP is a different story as they are full synthetic and have special addatives for the Ford cars and trucks. same with Dex 6 being specific for GM but is not synthetic.
Now the oil companies making the TES 295 clone fluids are suggesting that their fluids will replace all the others including Mercedes and BMW synthetics.
I have tried them in these cars and they work fine.
 

PhilsLB7

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I don't think there is much difference if any between Mercon/Dexron. The trans industry has been using a Dex/Merc blend in everything for years.
Now Mercon V and Mercon SP is a different story as they are full synthetic and have special addatives for the Ford cars and trucks. same with Dex 6 being specific for GM but is not synthetic.
Now the oil companies making the TES 295 clone fluids are suggesting that their fluids will replace all the others including Mercedes and BMW synthetics.
I have tried them in these cars and they work fine.

So what fluid(s) do you recommend for a stock Allison? You mentioned the Dex III before with an additive (?) but I thought it was more specific for a built Allison trans. Are their other synthetic fluids you would recommend?
 

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Mike have you played with any of the BMW trans fluids in anything other than BMW trannys? Bein a bimmer tech, we've got all of them at work, Esso, Texaco, etc. There expensive as hell though! They seem to work great in the GM's and ZF's here! We did switch from MTF-LT1 to Pintosin ATF-1 in some trannys because its posta be the same or better and works well, cost less. The old ZF's in 740i's took a pricy oil but we've replaced it with Mobil-1 Syn ATF with exellent results. Dunno if maybe any of these fluids would be Ally compatable or not?

Dont know if its a no-no or not but the TH-350 in my Malibu and a TH-350 with a Hughes kit in it i built both run on R&O or 303 Tractor fluid and run and shift like no other!
 

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There are some fluids out there that are great but need to be tested. What we have to remember here is that our trucks are multi purpose and a good racing fluid will probably not pull your trailer very long. I built an Alli using customer supplied parts ( Alto power packs ) and nothing else. He brought me Amsoil Type F fluid. He made a couple of 12 sec passes and limped. It was a 2X4 truck. This should not have happened. I switched fluid to my universal Dex 3 and changed filters and so far so good.
Fluids are a very touchy sunject and we need to be carefull.
 

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Mike, I have about 75,000 miles on my tranny and think it may be time for my second internal filter and a flush. Should I switch to Dex 3 or stay with the synthetic since I have so many miles on my tranny? I need all the holding capacity I can get my tranny is probably close to its limits with my tuning.
 

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Does anyone have an opinion on the Schaeffer All Trans? I have used it for about 20,000 in a daily driver with no tune. I drain pan every 20,000 and change filter every 10,000. I have used their products for years in other vehicles but this is first Allison.

Jim
 

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There are some fluids out there that are great but need to be tested. What we have to remember here is that our trucks are multi purpose and a good racing fluid will probably not pull your trailer very long. I built an Alli using customer supplied parts ( Alto power packs ) and nothing else. He brought me Amsoil Type F fluid. He made a couple of 12 sec passes and limped. It was a 2X4 truck. This should not have happened. I switched fluid to my universal Dex 3 and changed filters and so far so good.
Fluids are a very touchy sunject and we need to be carefull.

So mike when you built my trans back in august(the long black lifted truck with fiberglass fenders on, tried to get your ass to go to Disneyland but ya wouldnt do it lol) did you put that special additive and Dex3 in my trans?
 

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So mike when you built my trans back in august(the long black lifted truck with fiberglass fenders on, tried to get your ass to go to Disneyland but ya wouldnt do it lol) did you put that special additive and Dex3 in my trans?

Yes
 

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This may sopund like a stupid question, but where do you get the DEXRON III at now? I know at all the stores by me all I can find is the multi-vehicle stuff that says it is DEXRON III compatible, is this ok? I normally use the CASTROL domestic multi-vehicle when it calls for DEXRON III anymore in customers cars, is this ok or should I find a different one?
 

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So what fluid(s) do you recommend for a stock Allison? You mentioned the Dex III before with an additive (?) but I thought it was more specific for a built Allison trans. Are their other synthetic fluids you would recommend?

I'm wondering the same, what is the best for a stock Allison?