OK pullers lets help

TNRGreene

Kicked to the Curb
Sep 2, 2006
2,911
0
0
Bradenton, Florida
The guy at the dealer told me they were pro comp wheels AND the truck was a hired out build :eek:
I have not seen it in person yet supposed to get pics tomorrow
 
Last edited:

ripmf666

Active member
Sep 20, 2006
15,123
14
38
47
Wentzville Mo
I just watched all the videos.I seen that truck on the DP before or some were before.Man he has some timing rattle going on. All the videos were posted around the same time and that truck is to slow to be built. If he paid 800 for a CL man it most be gold.
 
Last edited:

othrgrl

Diesel Addiction Owner
Mar 10, 2008
2,151
4
38
Wilmington NC
www.mydieseladdiction.com
I agree that it is total BS. He has at least cranked T-bars, if not green keys. Looks to me like he probably broke a tie rod and a CV all at once - that's the only way I figure it could/would go back to straight.
 

super diesel

<<<< Under Pressure
Here is a truck from GA. Big motor supposed, fab tech tie rods, cognito braces, super steer idler assembly & straight centerlink. I have NEVER seen anything like it. http://www.youtube.com/user/Chevyblood1#play/uploads/6/i3qQk94hTMk I suspect green keys & the bars still up.
He's 6 hours from me & I just don't have the time but want to help.

Opinions

Who gave you this info on the truck? If your findings conclude this is bull, and it was from the owner, it's hard to help someone like this because you don't know what else there being dishonest about. Some times it comes back to bite you even. But if this isn't the case, I would love to hear your findings on this. Good luck.
 

super diesel

<<<< Under Pressure
Only if your front lifts. I'm making some quick connect front limit stops that just bolt in place quickly, and can be removed quickly. This will keep the front end down and the center of gravity forward (front tire traction with weight on them). Some tracks like these and some don't. I think it depend more on your set up as far as traction, wheel speed, and tire pressure (hoping and bouncing). The T bar lifting action works against us. CG goes rearward and the front tires barely touch and don't help wit the pull as much as we need them to. Tell me if I'm way off here Todd and JB.
 
Last edited:

othrgrl

Diesel Addiction Owner
Mar 10, 2008
2,151
4
38
Wilmington NC
www.mydieseladdiction.com
are aftermarket torsoin keys really bad for pullin?

The worse the angles on the CVs and steering, the worse it is on the front end. With keys you typically have horrible CV and steering angles. If you want it sitting high and want to pull do it right (with a real lift kit) or be prepared to break front end parts and give the IFS a bad name.
 

MMLMM

Tunergeek
Mar 2, 2008
4,086
2
38
43
Reno, NV
www.dyncal.com
He did not have a center link or sleeves...

I also think he is trying to say he has gotten them since this and is going to put them on for the next pull....
 

JOHNBOY

< Rocking the Big Single!
Aug 30, 2006
2,159
0
0
Saegertown, Pa
Only if your front lifts. I'm making some quick connect front limit stops that just bolt in place quickly, and can be removed quickly. This will keep the front end down and the center of gravity forward (front tire traction with weight on them). Some tracks like these and some don't. I think it depend more on your set up as far as traction, wheel speed, and tire pressure (hoping and bouncing). The T bar lifting action works against us. CG goes rearward and the front tires barely touch and don't help wit the pull as much as we need them to. Tell me if I'm way off here Todd and JB.

For pulling limit strap are a very bad Idea. Been tried with very bad results. I am sticking to my story. He needs to lower the front end. Even with your centerlink at that height the tierods are at a good upward angle. Trucks with a straight center link will still tow in. Not nearly as bad as without but they still will.

The best way and only really effective way to keep the front down and digging is to limit the lerage the sled has on it. A short as possible hitch, and a low chassis does this.

Limiting front travel is a bad plan. When you hit the limit straps it will suddenly transfer all the weight to the ack giving a quick increase in bite. Makes for good wheelies and broken parts.
 

TNRGreene

Kicked to the Curb
Sep 2, 2006
2,911
0
0
Bradenton, Florida
For pulling limit strap are a very bad Idea. Been tried with very bad results. I am sticking to my story. He needs to lower the front end. Even with your centerlink at that height the tierods are at a good upward angle. Trucks with a straight center link will still tow in. Not nearly as bad as without but they still will.

The best way and only really effective way to keep the front down and digging is to limit the lerage the sled has on it. A short as possible hitch, and a low chassis does this.

Limiting front travel is a bad plan. When you hit the limit straps it will suddenly transfer all the weight to the ack giving a quick increase in bite. Makes for good wheelies and broken parts.

Michael thanks for taking the time to talk. As per our conversation today. I'm against limiting it unless you have hard core evidence it works on track "A" but not "B". That is next to impossible to do. I think it may work at some but until somebody else does the testing ;) I can't afford the broken parts :eek:
I have to go with JB's statement above as to what I've learned also...the hard way
 

bonescarolfi

New member
Sep 3, 2008
223
0
0
38
Marshfield WI
Wow, ive never seen one break that soon. that definitley sucks.
Ive seen it before. Basically the same thing, no prep, mostly stock, and torsion bar keys. He couldn't move the sled and then toe in and snap. The truck in the video doesn't look like it was aligned after the front end was jacked up. The tops of the tires looked tipped out suggesting a camber issue. So yeah have to agree with everybody else on the bs part. Doesn't look like there was any research or thought put into his pulling efforts. And I would think if he had a built motor he would have some other go fast goodies and should have been able to at least move the sled a little more or spin the tires before breaking stuff.
 
Last edited:

03maxpower

New member
Jan 20, 2009
327
0
0
somerset, pa
:confused:

How heavy was that sled?

A lot of things don't add up in this video to me.

1. Front end seems high but not ridiculous
2. I've seen cognito braces bend and even break before and with the bad geometry of that setup, could mangle the cognito's pretty bad.
3. Center links have been known to also twist which wouldn't help the cognito's either.
4. Fabtech tie rods are pretty beefy so that shouldn't be an issue, unless they were upside-down.
5. Are those stock tires?
6. I've seen trucks pull with green keys and they didn't do that.

After writing down this list, I'm calling BS. That looks like a stock truck with stock tires and zero prep. The engine even sounds fairly stock, maybe tuning only.

No way does someone go to all the trouble of buying and installing all of those front end parts to pull and then not prep for the pull. Especially, if said person has put money into the engine. And if this was a result of not prepping the truck after spending all that money, then he should have any and all Duramax privileges removed until he knows better.

i agree;)
 

dmaxfireman

'Can do' kind of guy
Apr 8, 2007
2,329
1
38
CT
i watched the video about 20 times. i almost thought he had no power going to the rear wheels the way the fronts toed and did not seem to move when the engine revved up after the snap. then saw just a little dirt fly off the back tires when i paused at the right moment.

x? on not dropping the bars enough and having NO front end support. i pulled stock centerlink with sleeves and braces with my 33x13.5 baja claws and t-bar bolts out on a wet clay track and even with insane traction (and a ton of shifting problems) did not see any toe in at all on the videos.