Info: NHRDA Super Street Rule Change

McRat

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As long as the car meets the weight for the class I agree. If it is half the weight though, then that changes the game as it won't need as much HP to run the same time=possibility of less broken parts. And SS has a min weight so I don't see an issue here with it being a car, truck or a spaceship!

Dockboy's plan is no weight or body restrictions. Just ET and some form of compression ignition. "No Rules"

A retired Econorail with a stock Dmax in it will run the number for 100,000 passes.:D
 

MMLMM

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Im not really crying about it, it doesnt bother me, but I kinda liked those 2 rules for a street class, the rest of the rules in S/S are pretty generic race rules of any type of racing class setup. Im trying to say, I kinda like those little wierd rules some classes have that seperate them.

I know a fuel cell and a battery relocate is not going to change much for the class.
 

McRat

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Im not really crying about it, it doesnt bother me, but I kinda liked those 2 rules for a street class, the rest of the rules in S/S are pretty generic race rules of any type of racing class setup. Im trying to say, I kinda like those little wierd rules some classes have that seperate them.

I know a fuel cell and a battery relocate is not going to change much for the class.

It's a minor advantage for the 2wd entries so they can get more traction. But a smaller fuel tank, and a battery that is not in the nose is a little safer in a wreck.

I don't think your opinion would qualify as crying.

Crying is special term in the Diesel World, that has it's roots on CompD:

Crying is what somebody does when they catch you cheating red-handed, or when somebody calls you out for pulling a scam.

When the DHRADM cheated racers out of purses, the racers "cried". When weight restrictions were removed for certain cars but not others, the other racers "cried". When entries who did not successfully qualify for the Finals were allowed to run, but others were not, the racers "cried".

The problem with term Crying is it means multiple different things at the same time:

Crying: "I want an Index Class so my car is more competitive!"
Crying: "I don't want an Index Class so my truck stays competitive!"
Crying: "The existing system works, leave it alone."

Crying: "Weight restrictions should be removed."
Crying: "Weight restrictions should be adjusted."
Crying: "Weight system works, leave it alone."

It's almost like the word Phuck. It has thousands of "meanings" and only one of them is correct.
 

Dockboy

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Don't worry McFat...

You have the market cornered on crying!!:roflmao:

I can't believe you are still so butt hurt from over 5 years ago:spit:

I sure hope someday you grow balls big enough to come out and play again but somehow I doubt. You didn't have a truck that could compete then and you sure as hell don't now:rofl:
 

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McRat

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Don't worry McFat...

You have the market cornered on crying!!:roflmao:

I can't believe you are still so butt hurt from over 5 years ago:spit:

I sure hope someday you grow balls big enough to come out and play again but somehow I doubt. You didn't have a truck that could compete then and you sure as hell don't now:rofl:

If by compete, you mean putting together an engine half-ass, doing a crappy job of tuning it, then blowing it up at the Gay Pride Dyno Day, then I suppose I don't "compete" as much as you do. Congrats again.

My last trip around a racetrack was November.

My licenses and safety equipment are all paid up to date. It costs thousands just to get everything up to 2012 safety reqs.

IIRC, NHRA is 8.90, 9.90, and 10.90. Not sure what the Outlaw Drunken Hick Class index is, but it's probably posted on CompD. Is that what you're referring to?

So how many 9.90 events have you entered? If it's such a great idea, I suppose you're basing that on your vast experience. Cough. Cough.
 

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If by compete, you mean putting together an engine half-ass, doing a crappy job of tuning it, then blowing it up at the Gay Pride Dyno Day, then I suppose I don't "compete" as much as you do. Congrats again.

My last trip around a racetrack was November.

My licenses and safety equipment are all paid up to date. It costs thousands just to get everything up to 2012 safety reqs.

IIRC, NHRA is 8.90, 9.90, and 10.90. Not sure what the Outlaw Drunken Hick Class index is, but it's probably posted on CompD. Is that what you're referring to?

So how many 9.90 events have you entered? If it's such a great idea, I suppose you're basing that on your vast experience. Cough. Cough.

Does this constitute as a win?
I think this constitutes as a win. Anyone? Anyone?

This just made my day pat. HAHAHA THANK YOU.
 

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IIRC, NHRA is 8.90, 9.90, and 10.90.
thats for the NHRA Lucas Oil Drag Racing Series which is 6-7 events at different tracks in each division

Not sure what the Outlaw Drunken Hick Class index is, but it's probably posted on CompD. Is that what you're referring to?
like Greg said just about every track in the Northeast runs a handfull to a dozen index races every year, just because they don't or you don't know that they run it in Commiefornia. go read for 10 minutes on yellowbullet.com & you'll figure it out

all in all it comes down to the same thing
there needs to be more participation for the sport to grow, like why NHRDA is down to 2 events per division where they draw the most people
 

McRat

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thats for the NHRA Lucas Oil Drag Racing Series which is 6-7 events at different tracks in each division


like Greg said just about every track in the Northeast runs a handfull to a dozen index races every year, just because they don't or you don't know that they run it in Commiefornia. go read for 10 minutes on yellowbullet.com & you'll figure it out

all in all it comes down to the same thing
there needs to be more participation for the sport to grow, like why NHRDA is down to 2 events per division where they draw the most people

I know the CompD guys think MIT is something you use for baseball, but think a little.

Quarter Finals - 10.000 Index, no rollcages.

ET 9.96 9.90

ET 9.99 9.95

You're saying all tracks in the USA tolerate running under your safety limit? Or are you saying not all races have winners. Sometimes everyone loses?

The tracks is CA might let you go ONCE under your safety, certainly not twice. Been there, done that. A lot. At multiple tracks. We ran out of tracks, so we had to get a rollbar.
 

McRat

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Also note that the last time it was Diesel Index for the faster classes, this is how they did it:

You set up to run at least a 1/2 second quicker than your index.

You go as fast as you can, then at about 1200 ft, you lock up your brakes.

Kind of like a cross between real racing and demolition derby.

In case you are curious most tracks with sober officials will ban you for doing that.

I suppose it's easier than learning to drive, or learning to tune, but it makes diesel folk look like reckless fools.
 

Dockboy

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If by compete, you mean putting together an engine half-ass, doing a crappy job of tuning it, then blowing it up at the Gay Pride Dyno Day, then I suppose I don't "compete" as much as you do. Congrats again.

My last trip around a racetrack was November.

My licenses and safety equipment are all paid up to date. It costs thousands just to get everything up to 2012 safety reqs.

IIRC, NHRA is 8.90, 9.90, and 10.90. Not sure what the Outlaw Drunken Hick Class index is, but it's probably posted on CompD. Is that what you're referring to?

So how many 9.90 events have you entered? If it's such a great idea, I suppose you're basing that on your vast experience. Cough. Cough.

Running your pos vette around a road course is not diesel drag racing numbnuts:spit:

I've attended and raced in 5 DRAG RACING events since November of last year not sat on my ass. Last year alone, I made over 200 passes in events. Where were you? I run in 10.00 and Pro Dial at Cecil's monthly Street Car Shootout and the Yellowbullet Nationals, run the Summit ET Series, as well as run in ProStreet at all NHRDA, NADM and Outlaw events I attend. Where were you?

Oh, I forgot, you where so butt hurt and humiliated the last time you showed up at a drag race that you took your ball and ran home and have been using that as an excuse ever since. :roflmao:
 

Dockboy

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I know the CompD guys think MIT is something you use for baseball, but think a little.

Quarter Finals - 10.000 Index, no rollcages.

ET 9.96 9.90

ET 9.99 9.95

You're saying all tracks in the USA tolerate running under your safety limit? Or are you saying not all races have winners. Sometimes everyone loses?

The tracks is CA might let you go ONCE under your safety, certainly not twice. Been there, done that. A lot. At multiple tracks. We ran out of tracks, so we had to get a rollbar.


I guess us dunken hicks here out east don't know what we are doing seeing that every track pulls more than 70 entries in the Index classes at every event and well over 150 at the Yellowbullet:confused:

Why is it that we have all the tracks and all yours are closing?:roflmao:
 

juddski88

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thats for the NHRA Lucas Oil Drag Racing Series which is 6-7 events at different tracks in each division


like Greg said just about every track in the Northeast runs a handfull to a dozen index races every year, just because they don't or you don't know that they run it in Commiefornia. go read for 10 minutes on yellowbullet.com & you'll figure it out

all in all it comes down to the same thing
there needs to be more participation for the sport to grow, like why NHRDA is down to 2 events per division where they draw the most people

In my opinion, the problem with NHRDA and other drag racing organizations is that they don't advertise where it counts. Sure, put adds in Diesel Power or on Diesel specific forums....most people in these audiences are NOT drag racers, nor are they interested in breaking their tow truck, their daily driver, and they are more than likely too busy to go watch a race right now. I think that advertising should start at the local level, with each track - more of a grass roots approach. Nowadays, kids with trucks or cars that WOULD attend races hang out near liquor stores, mall parking lots, and abandoned lots where they can do burnouts. Build local liaisons with enthusiasts in the area of the track, distribute flyers, offer something more than just a few trucks going down the track. Events like Numidia, Scheid's, TS, Englishtown, the OBX events, etc all have much better turnouts than the average NHRDA events because they do this.
 

Noreaster

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the other problem with the Northeast is no race director for division 5
Im sure Randy doesn't want to come all the way out here from out West, plus the 2 races that they had at Maple Grove & Lebanon Valley were bad turnouts. The last director to my knowledge was Jeff(racinduallie) & he didn't want to do much outside of NJ.
So I doubt much will happen up here unless somebody has the ambition to organize an event, get a good crowd & a good turnout of racers for a year or two to then be able to say to an organization look here & do you want in next time.
 

Subman

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In my opinion, the problem with NHRDA and other drag racing organizations is that they don't advertise where it counts. Sure, put adds in Diesel Power or on Diesel specific forums....most people in these audiences are NOT drag racers, nor are they interested in breaking their tow truck, their daily driver, and they are more than likely too busy to go watch a race right now. I think that advertising should start at the local level, with each track - more of a grass roots approach. Nowadays, kids with trucks or cars that WOULD attend races hang out near liquor stores, mall parking lots, and abandoned lots where they can do burnouts. Build local liaisons with enthusiasts in the area of the track, distribute flyers, offer something more than just a few trucks going down the track. Events like Numidia, Scheid's, TS, Englishtown, the OBX events, etc all have much better turnouts than the average NHRDA events because they do this.

I agree with this, the events that have good local folks making sure the area known what is giong on have great turnouts, i.e. Pheonix and Edmonton that I've been to.