whats the difference between this and the Cheetah? Pretty simple question. Not trying to crack the atom.
New upgraded avnt 37 charger??????
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The Cheetah uses stock veins.
I believe the difference in housings is that this one is a new housing designed for its application and the cheetah is a stock housing machined to fit the bigger wheels.
Cheetah is a machined housing with an upgraded turbine wheel, they come in a variety of sizes and can be made to fit your application. I'll let Dan handle the details on the Garrett
Sure....
The Garrett unit is engineered as a complete matched unit. Its not a stock/modified turbo that has unmatched parts put together. The unmatched parts are what are causing the failures of the modified stock turbo's that use a NON AVNT turbine wheel.
The difference? Garrett = engineered+tested = long life/reliability.
Others that use a non AVNT turbine Wheel = failure (its not if, its when)
Does this answer your question?
The Garrett unit is engineered as a complete matched unit. Its not a stock/modified turbo that has unmatched parts put together. The unmatched parts are what are causing the failures of the modified stock turbo's that use a NON AVNT turbine wheel.
The difference? Garrett = engineered+tested = long life/reliability.
Others that use a non AVNT turbine Wheel = failure (its not if, its when)
Does this answer your question?
It is a bolt in replacement. Take your existing unit off, install this unit and you are done. You don't need to change anything else other then the turbo. Yes everything is the same as stock.
The turbo spools a little slower then the stock turbo with normal tuning. However we offer free tune upgrades with the purchase of the turbo from us or one of our dealers. The revised tunes will allow this turbo to give maximum potential and also allow it to spool QUICKER then a stock unit....
Just curious Dan, I haven't heard or read of a rash of failures on the modified chargers (I'm assuming we're speaking of Danville Performance or the Cheetah's). How common are these failures? What breaks?
That funny I have seen 3 of them already. Just remember, just because it not posted does not mean it has not happened.
The only Turbo's I'm referring to are the ones that use NON AVNT TURBINE wheels in a AVNT charger.
Is this a project that involved Garrett Engineering, or was it a spec'd out project, designed by PPE, or someone else? (just for clarity)
please pm me with price details. Since there is already an AVNT37, what is Garrett calling this?
Hey Dan PM a price to me if you could...also do you happen to know what the inducer is in MM? I'm anxious to see 2.6 Cheetah VS. AVNT37 Garrett showdown! How about it Brayden and Dan?...One truck two turbos...LETS GET IT ON! :treed:
thats funny i know of i know of at least 4 trucks that have had modded stock units for almost two years and numerous hooks and strip passes. as well as being dailey driven like they where stolen with zero problems
I've seen 2 failures. I had the opportunity to remove one of them and it was $@^$ed ! Very little time on it.
One mentioned they enjoyed the stock charger more after the replacement....
After seeing this i would lean towards a complete unmodified from garret.
The price on these is pretty damn good , i think. Plus, you get to keep your stocker !
One mentioned they enjoyed the stock charger more after the replacement....
After seeing this i would lean towards a complete unmodified from garret.
The price on these is pretty damn good , i think. Plus, you get to keep your stocker !
i am not saying that there havent been any failures. i do believe a iread about one on here. i am also sure that they where taken care of. every company has failures. it is just a part of making and selling products. i have a lift pump from ppe that failed and left me stranded on the side of the road. after every one said they havent heard of any failures. i wasnt mad i just got my truck towed the 45 min to my house took the pump off called dan and sent it back. they fixed it and sent it back. i dont know what was wrong with it becase they never told me. but i decided to go with another pump set up. all i am saying is failures happen . to everyone
ya, for sure failures happen. It's always nice when the seller takes care of it quickly ! As far as i know, the two failures i have seen have not been replaced. I dunno though, i didn't wanna start a pissing match or offend anyone. Just wanted to state that i have seen 2.
Already been done. A customer in Alabama bought a 68mm Cheetah off us us and we installed it in early 08. The new Garrett VVT came out and he bought one from us and we shipped it to him and he had it installed down there. Same truck, same driver, 2 different turbos. One turbo was perfered without a doubt over the other.
As far as failures, I have ran every possible configuration of a Cheetah for testing purposes on the sled pulling track. I personally have had one failure and we knew it was gonna happen. It was a LBZ turbine housing with a 64mm comp wheel. The turbo was originally installed for running a single CP3. After some tuning changes and duel CP3's were added we knew it would'nt last long due to the shaft speed. It lasted 3 hooks and then the bearings failed on the 3rd run at 280ft. As far as turbine failures go, the only thing I have seen is turbine fins being melted due to extreme heat, and almost all the core turbos we get in have the same issue with the factory turbine wheel that was designed for a VVT by Garrett.
Both are good turbos and serve there purpose, we sell both for that reason.
And for the few failures that have happened, if we are made aware of it we immediately take care of it and get the customer taken care of.
Jerrod
FPE
