I would be in for a set to test, don't expect them to be free. Won't know what they will do if you don't try. :thumb:
New duramax rods iv been working on
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I will spell it out for you.
If you give away 4 sets to reputable engine builders and they hold up you will sell the other 90 sets in a hurry.
If you continue to make claims about how they hold up in your personal build and then try and sell 4 sets "at a loss" for testing you will have 90 sets that never leave the comfort of your shop.....
If you give away 4 sets to reputable engine builders and they hold up you will sell the other 90 sets in a hurry.
If you continue to make claims about how they hold up in your personal build and then try and sell 4 sets "at a loss" for testing you will have 90 sets that never leave the comfort of your shop.....
Why not post data so everyone can see? Are you related to a guy named Greg by chance? How can you prove you are legit and not trying to scam members? Sounds like bullchit to me
mate look at all the pictures iv posted there all from manufacturing. im sure other big name companys dont post all there specs up. but ill add all materials and bolts where tested by SGS to be of equal quality to top brands. like said iv got a few guys keen to try things. and no im not related to greg or comp 461 or what ever his name is at all... farrr from it
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im trying to get a few sets out there with any luck there will be some feedback soon. no point just people saying there trash lets just see how they go as stated iv got them in my truck 100 over sticks 12mm cp3 with a big single nearly maxed out and no complaints so far so will get these other 2 motors running and see how they go. and then we wil see from a couple of others who have pm'd me how we go
I'll make it easy. There are several reputable diesel based shops out there, all whom own an engine dyno, in house. Pick 4 or 5 and send them a set for free to throw in their mule engine. Let them beat the piss out of your rods for a good while. That is what people want to see.
I don't think anyone had said they are trash, just entirely unproven.
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I got quotes on forging dies for building rods as I was interested in this at one point. It cost 30k to get setup to forge rods guys... How in the heck are you making any money selling at 1500??
so whats the tensile strength of these things?
whats the material make up of them?
where have the metals come from (we dont need specifics, just if they are over seas from china or Australian or US).
How is your quality control for the steels?
how many failed your standard?
After being ran and abused, how far off of spec have they become since they were first placed in the motor?
you should very well be able to answer 90% of these questions. Carrillo and Crower have no issue doing so.
whats the material make up of them?
where have the metals come from (we dont need specifics, just if they are over seas from china or Australian or US).
How is your quality control for the steels?
how many failed your standard?
After being ran and abused, how far off of spec have they become since they were first placed in the motor?
you should very well be able to answer 90% of these questions. Carrillo and Crower have no issue doing so.
Humm, I do millions of dollars a year in impact forgings with a very reputable company and have never been cut a "deal".
My price target was 2000.00 for forged heat treated 4140 rods with arp2000 hardware. I quickly realized I'd never recoupe my initial investment which would well be over 75k.
I have a machine shop with the finest cnc mills you can buy, (Makino)
Man I hope you come out to the good though, I'm just really skeptical at this point.
Good luck and I mean that.
Waid
My price target was 2000.00 for forged heat treated 4140 rods with arp2000 hardware. I quickly realized I'd never recoupe my initial investment which would well be over 75k.
I have a machine shop with the finest cnc mills you can buy, (Makino)
Man I hope you come out to the good though, I'm just really skeptical at this point.
Good luck and I mean that.
Waid
HE didn't forge them... He paid a China shop to make a new dies to his design specs and complete the forgings then send them to him to finish machining is my guess.
I'd get up a few dollars if some others would also to have some sets sent to some shops with engine dynos like Empire, Fleece, Wagler (think they have a dyno?), and a set to Danville to go through the riggers on his chassis dyno with cylinder monitoring.
Wagler has an engine Dyno but there's no point in him even testing them since he makes his own rods now.
Mitch, any forging shop will charge you for setup tooling, China or USA doesn't matter.