New duramax rods iv been working on
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I think that's the wrong attitude to come back with, while expecting to spread the word about your new to everyone stuff. Especially on this forum, where there have been a similar situation before, of course everyone is going to be hesitant to believe just claims and promises. You should check your attitude when people are actually trying to attempt to test this shit.
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"Jog along" is exactly what most will do now. Good job.
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ok sorry bud look all i wanted to put forward is an alternative for people.
here are material certs for these rods
Attitude is everything, especially when there is not a known face to go with it. With those comments, I take back my $10 I was going to donate :roflmao:
If Mark is willing to abuse an engine on his dyno for the sake of testing a no-name rod, I'll be glad to chip in :thumb:
I will pitch in! If these do turn out to be good rods. Money well spent. If not none of us are out much.
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Quite honestly with the way everybody here has jumped on him and attacked him, I can't blame him for being the way he has. He said he's working on something, and in less than 24 hours he's drug through the gutters, called pooptrol, and labled a con artist(just go back and reread this thread). Look at it from another point of view. Lets say he gives away 4 sets on good faith for testing, his profit margin is say $300(just throwing out a number), he's out 20 sets of rod before he even breaks even. To a big name company this is nothing where there profit margins are probably close to 100%, but to a little guy just starting out, this can be HUGE! If somebody is willing to step up and try them, then good on them. I understand the memory of pink slippers venture is still in peoples minds, but this guy may actually be on the up and up just trying to make a better mouse trap for a reasonable price. I say give him a chance to prove himself BEFORE you tar and feather him. If your not willing to try them, then that's your choice(I don't see anybody forcing anybody to try them), but if somebody is then let them do it.
Quite honestly this whole thread wreaks of the crap I hear from my wife dealing with teenagers all day with clicks, and the in crowd to prove yourself. Guess I just look at things differently since I was never in a click, all of my racing was done dirt poor out of crappy shops WITHOUT big names involved, yet we always managed to turn some heads. And I was never much for being part of the in crowd. Some of the fastest guys out there started out as nobodies just trying to prove themselves to NOBODY BUT THEMSELVES.
Quite honestly this whole thread wreaks of the crap I hear from my wife dealing with teenagers all day with clicks, and the in crowd to prove yourself. Guess I just look at things differently since I was never in a click, all of my racing was done dirt poor out of crappy shops WITHOUT big names involved, yet we always managed to turn some heads. And I was never much for being part of the in crowd. Some of the fastest guys out there started out as nobodies just trying to prove themselves to NOBODY BUT THEMSELVES.
ok sorry bud look all i wanted to put forward is an alternative for people.
here are material certs for these rods
Being a numbers guy, (and given my background in this field) I'm happy to see some documentation appearing. This is a different format than I'm used to seeing in the US steel industry, but most of the information is there. I'm assuming the hardness is Brinell, judging from the range.
As others have pointed out, this is purely a mill certification for the material, and has nothing to do with the peened, machined forging. It also appears to me that the company doing the forgings must not see much volume, as this MTR/MTC is from 2013.
I'm sure it would put many of our minds at ease if you were willing to post some of the documentation backing up the design that went into these rods. Heck, I'd be happy to see Morh's circle and some piston speed-to-hoop stress calculations for the rod ends.
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he was being evasive long before anyone started calling him names. he still hasn't answered my questions about the Carillo and Manley rods he has broken. what is the build sheet of the 800hp duramax these rods are running on now? how many miles? have compression and/or piston protrusion been checked since install? any track passes, pulls, dyno runs? what is the engine in (he is in Australia, I honestly don't know if they have 3/4 tons there or if it is a conversion)?
are YOU willing to throw a set of these rods in your built motor and run it to 1000+hp? i get that four sets could be a lot for a small time guy to absorb, hence why I said one set. even then the testing shop will have alot more riding on it than just $1500 in rods. they have machine shop costs, bearings, gaskets, labor. All for what, a free set of rods? what happens when they shatter and take out the entire motor, damage some pistons, eat up the block, heads, and crank, and metal up the oil so it kills the turbo (s). Honestly I think it is a lot to ask as a startup for a shop to put a built motor through the ringer for just a free set of rods, but if a shop is willing then great.
have to think of this as shark tank. he has no previous sales, nothing but anecdotal test data, was, initially, seemingly unwilling to have a set legitimately tested, has provided zero background info, and yet wants people to risk much more than the discounted price of rods so he can get some test data. For that, I'm out.
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Since your trying to make a profit with parts many of us supporting vendors sell parts that hold up in builds. At the bottom of the form click sponsor here to get set up as a supporting vendor of the forum.
You and I both know Henry that at this stage that he isn't likely to get endorsed. The words "Duramax parts and services from TRUSTED vendors" means alot to the owners of the board. As they have said many times they don't need vendors to operate this board. If you yourself took them on and sold them then it's on your rep. Not saying you would, just putting it out there as an example.
If he gets a few sets out and they get put through the ringer by a few people on this board and they turn out to be a stand up product then maybe.
FWIW I hope they are what he says they are. Better pricing on good parts is something needed in the diesel performance world. Even if they are just a better than stock but not suitable for a full on balls out build that's not necessarily a bad thing. Lots of 600-700hp guys that these could help out.
YES MADE IN CHINA!!!!
I got an email with this same image a few months back from a company called Hurricane rods in china. Our cost on these things was like $475 shipped to the door and at that time they had not been tested per what they told me. They could not supply a certified ISO documents on the metals and materials. In the past I have scene hurricane rods FAIL big time in mustang 5.0 motors.