MAF rescale

dieseladdiction23

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Hey guys, Im just about finished with my s475/stock install, and im wondering if im going to have to have the MAF sensor rescaled. The pipe its in now is rougly 4 3/4 inches ID. If so, does anybody know what I need to change the numbers to? I would like to save the $50 bucks for a tune change if possible. Thanks
 

Fingers

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OEM => 4" or 12.566 sqin
New => 4.75" or 17.721 sqin

1.41 times bigger so air parcel will be moving 71% slower through the tube.

In the MAF table, multiply the grams/sec rate by 1.41
 

dieseladdiction23

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So if these are my numbers, do I just multiply by 1.41 on all of them. Max is 66.14 so the last couple will be maxed is that ok. Because I drove it today and it is very laggy. Thanks guys
0.00
0.91
1.65
2.27
2.84
3.42
4.03
4.72
5.50
6.40
7.43
8.61
9.94
11.42
13.23
14.88
16.86
19.00
21.32
23.80
26.46
29.29
32.31
35.53
38.94
42.56
46.41
50.48
54.81
59.40
64.27
66.00
66.00
 

Fingers

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Yes, multiply by 1.41 and "adjust" the values that exceed the table's max. 66.00 in your case is the max.
 

dracing70

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OEM => 4" or 12.566 sqin
New => 4.75" or 17.721 sqin

1.41 times bigger so air parcel will be moving 71% slower through the tube.

In the MAF table, multiply the grams/sec rate by 1.41

I have a question. How did u establish the 17.721 quantity. I understand everything else except how u came up with the new base number ???
 

PACougar

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I have a question. How did u establish the 17.721 quantity. I understand everything else except how u came up with the new base number ???

That's the area of a 4.75" circle. π × r2 You simply calculate the area of the original intake pipe and then compare it to the area of the new pipe.
 

S Phinney

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Using this math formula does not get MAF back in specs. Even though your truck may not be laggy take a reading of MAF at idle and WOT and you will see where you are. I adjust using percent differences of the readings not pipe size differences. I have tried the pipe difference before too.

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blue8135

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That's the area of a 4.75" circle. π × r2 You simply calculate the area of the original intake pipe and then compare it to the area of the new pipe.

I'm still confused. By my math, I can get the 12.566=(4*3.1416), but by the same formula 4.75*3.1416 does not equal the 17.721.
 

dieseladdiction23

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Yea I'm gonna have to try something different, drove it to work today and it was kinda sputtering. So I did some more adjusting and now it has lag again.
 

S Phinney

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The formula would be radius squared times 3.14. That hives you the 17.71. Just read your MAF at idle and see what you have before making any adjustments.

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SickLL7Crenshaw

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You sure it's your maf causing all of this? because there are more tables you have to revise after you put your kit on, not just the maf flow rate table.
 

dracing70

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Using this math formula does not get MAF back in specs. Even though your truck may not be laggy take a reading of MAF at idle and WOT and you will see where you are. I adjust using percent differences of the readings not pipe size differences. I have tried the pipe difference before too.

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This is how i base my changes also. I have had very positive results with percentage changes. that is why I was curious about how the new number was established. I never thought to use the formula for cylinder area. But its good to know thanks for the responses.