I've Had It!

LB7Diesel

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I need some input on my screwed up truck! For quite sometime now I have had numorous electronic issues with my truck, and am not sure what's causing it! I'm going to list what's going on and would like any possible info on what to try and do to fix it. All the problem's I'm going to list are causing no codes to be thrown.

1. A/C only blows through the defrost( I fixed this by unplugging the door motor as it cycled to the vent's on it's way to defrost, so I only have the vent's now)
2. The heated seats will turn on for about 5 seconds but then turn off?
3. Sometimes when I shut the truck off and remove the key, the radio will stay on until I start the truck back up?
4. Sometimes when I open the door the interior light will come on, other times it won't. If I open and shut the door a few times it will start working?
5. Sometimes the truck won't start and I have to cycle the key a few times to get it to start?

I think that's it!! WTF could it be? BCM? I can't take much more of this!!!
 

McRat

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Intermittent problems are often grounding issues. So many things sound weird, that it sounds like one of the ground straps in the dash is undone.

How's the health of the batteries?
 

McRat

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Brand new Batteries. Where would I find the G straps? I already checked the 2 under the hood. These issues are getting ridiculous for sure!

There's a few of them, IIRC. I left one off when we pulled Casper's dash to do the rollcage and similiar weird stuff, one was "dead pedal", truck wouldn't go more than 50MPH, and you had to floor it to get rolling.

RKTMech? Robert, might know more.
 

Samdweezel05

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I had some weird stuff happen once. It was traced to the trigger wire for my lift pump. The dealer said it was causing too much of a draw on the BCM circuit. Sometimes I really do think that a 4 barrel and points is a better way to go.
 

super diesel

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Intermittent problems are often grounding issues. So many things sound weird, that it sounds like one of the ground straps in the dash is undone.

How's the health of the batteries?

This is what my problem was for a while too. Check ground straps on the drivers side of the engine block just above the oil pan toward the front (about 1/4 back from the front of the engine). I think there may be one on the passenger side too about the same distance back. Can't remember rightly.
 

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I need some input on my screwed up truck! For quite sometime now I have had numorous electronic issues with my truck, and am not sure what's causing it! I'm going to list what's going on and would like any possible info on what to try and do to fix it. All the problem's I'm going to list are causing no codes to be thrown.

1. A/C only blows through the defrost( I fixed this by unplugging the door motor as it cycled to the vent's on it's way to defrost, so I only have the vent's now)quite common for gm's to have blend doors fail, and the usually fail stuck on defrost , might be a default for safety
2. The heated seats will turn on for about 5 seconds but then turn off?
3. Sometimes when I shut the truck off and remove the key, the radio will stay on until I start the truck back up?
4. Sometimes when I open the door the interior light will come on, other times it won't. If I open and shut the door a few times it will start working?
both 3 and 4 i think are probably due to a faulty door switch
5. Sometimes the truck won't start and I have to cycle the key a few times to get it to start?

I think that's it!! WTF could it be? BCM? I can't take much more of this!!!

very well could be a ground issue , but i think the hvac has its own modual , not shure on the heated seat would have to check it with an amp meter to see if its in par with spec or drawing to many amps , and not shure on the truck not starting .
 
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LB7Diesel

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Thanks for the help guy's!! I will check all the ground straps I can find and see if it fixes anything. I'm starting to think all the boosted launches are starting to take there toll on the electronics. If anyone else has some input, please help out if ya can!!:hug:
 

TheBac

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Check the grounds on the frame, inside that front body mount under the drivers door. Corrosion of some kind could be playing a part in that.

Dash grounds are found on either side of the dash, above the side kick panels. Not easy to find.

Heater issues are probably the door actuators, as was posted earlier. Another possibility is the head unit is bad.

Trent has the right idea on the starting/lighting/radio playing issue. Bad door switch would cause all three of those.

Seat problems could probably be traced back to a bad/shorted ground lead or possibly one or more of the elements has an open circuit in them.

Found the Bulletin on the seat heater issue:
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03-05 Chevrolet/GMC/Cadillac All Full Size Trucks and Utilities Heated Seat Inoperative or Shut Off in 30 Seconds B1825 B2435 B2440 B3606 #PIT3287 - (Nov 23, 2004)

03 - 05 Chevrolet/GMC/Cadillac All Full Size Trucks and Utilities Heated Seat Inoperative or Shut Off in 30 seconds B1825 B2435 B2440 B3606.

The following diagnosis might be helpful if the vehicle exhibits the symptom described in the PI.

Condition/Concern:
Driver and passenger heated seats inoperative or shut off in 30 seconds. There will be DTCs B2435, B2440, B3606 and/or B1825 set in the Drivers Seat Module. The adjustable pedal position sensor, seat recliner position sensor and both heat seat thermistors share the same 5 volt reference internal to the Drivers Seat Module. A fault in any of these components/circuits can make the heated seats inoperative or shut off in 30 seconds, as well as, the seat recliner and/or adjustment pedals may move in short increments when operated. A fault in either heated seats, adjustable pedal or seat recliner will affect BOTH heated seats.

Recommendation/Instructions:
To help isolate the area of concern use the Tech 2 and go to &quot;Sensor Data&quot; in the Drivers Seat Module. Monitor the following parameters for being out of range:

Recline Position - Normal range .39V-4.58V

Pedal Position (if equipped) - Normal range .39V-4.58V

Psgr. Seat Heat Sensor - Normal range 1V-4V
Drvr. Seat Heat Sensor - Normal range 1V-4V



If a parameter is found to be out of range inspect circuits for any opens, shorts to ground, or voltage. If none found, replace the suspect component. Please be aware of the following common areas of concern:

1. The adjustable pedal position sensor internally shorted pulling the 5 volt reference low. Disconnect the adjustable pedal position sensor and see if the heated seats start working correctly, if so replace. NOTE IMPORTANT: The APP ( Accelerator Pedal Position) sensor is NOT the adjustable pedal position sensor. Make sure the correct sensor, adjustable pedal position sensor, is disconnected.
2. The seat recliner position sensor internally shorted pulling the 5 volt reference low. Disconnect the recliner position sensor and see if heated seats start working correctly, if so replace.
3. An open in either heated seat thermistor circuits (signal or low reference). The most common is the passenger thermistor where it passes through seat connector C305 pin &quot;L&quot; or &quot;K&quot; or C399 pins &quot;R&quot; or &quot;G&quot;.

NOTE IMPORTANT: The heated seat thermistors act differently to OPENS and SHORTS than the adjustable pedal position sensor and seat recliner position sensor. The adjustable pedals and seat recliner sensors can be disconnected for testing of the heated seats. Where as the heated seat thermistor circuit must be working correctly before EITHER heated seat will operate. Disconnecting one thermistor, which may have a concern will not allow the opposite heated seat to work correctly, BOTH side must be operational before EITHER heated seat will operate.

Clearing DTCs:

If DTCs will not clear when using the Tech 2 after a repair has been made, try operating the device in which the repair was made. Example, if a repair was made to the passenger heated seat thermistor circuit, the DTCs may not clear unless the passenger heated seat is operated.



Please follow this diagnosis process thoroughly and complete each step. If the condition exhibited is resolved without completing every step, the remaining steps do not need to be performed. If these steps do not resolve the condition, please contact GM TAC for further diagnostic assistance.

Models:
(03-05 Chevrolet All Full Size Trucks and Utilities) and (03-05 GMC All Full Size Trucks and Utilities) and (03-05 Cadillac All Full Size Utilities)
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LB7Diesel

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Thanks Bac!!!! Great info...

I've found out the door switch is causing the light and radio issue, and from talking to a couple people it seems I need a new a/c door actuator motor which I was told is a bitch to replace b/c you have to pull the dash:mad:

Haven't looked into the heated seat yet, I'm thinking I have broken circuits due to the high traffic the drivers seat see's. Anyone ever replace the element?
 

Cougar281

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2. The heated seats will turn on for about 5 seconds but then turn off?

One of your seat heater elements may be bad. When one of mine burned up, neither heater worked (did the same thing; came on for a few seconds and shut off). Are you getting any seat heater DTC's?
 
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