Tony is pretty much spot on with what he posted, his tuning was only on the truck for about 9k miles but the truck has had twins for 37k of the 39k miles that are currently on the odo. I bought the truck with the twins at 9k miles and it had what i was told was ATP robs tuning then and I added a cp3 and 60 overs with robs tuning at 28k and the truck HAULED ASS and RAN AMAZING, much better driveability and everything else across the board than what the truck had prior.
I blew the motor due to my own fault and had it rebuilt and went with the cheeta not knowing we were reinventing the wheel.
I never get online and 99.5% of what I know about the truck I learned in the last few hours. I dont care to get online or play the nut swinging game. I want the truck to run right. Thats it, I have no agendas or loyaltys to anything other than Nitto, I feel like I need to be buying a new set of rear tires every 5k miles or so
Tony has a ton of time in the truck but I havent talked to him to know the full extent. The problem is EFI LIVEs and until they step up to the plate and get something figured out keeping the cheeta on the truck is pointless.
Robs tunes are on the truck now and it builds no boost and billows black smoke like a 77 mack dump truck, but it throws no codes. I knew tonys tuning was better than what I was told was robs tuning that came on the truck so I wanted to stay with tonys stuff but after a month + was willing to try anything which is how we ended up back with rob.
My 2012 lml thats bone stock will bust this race trucks ass off the line.
I tried the PPE route and was promptly told, by the reference that PPE provided me, that the PPE would run pretty much identical to what rob had figured out. And thats after PPE says the truck will pretty much be perfect with there stuff on it. If they would allow me to return the box if it didnt run well I would try it but they wont so that pretty much leads me to believe that it wont fix shit either. I even asked if I could return it for a credit towards future tuner for one of my 2012 trucks and was told no, so yeah, im pretty sure PPE aint the answer either.
I will ship this big smokey pile of shit to anyone that has a fix as long as no money changes hands until its right and you pay to get it back to me if you waste a bunch of our time.
I think there are more trucks with issues that people arent talking about or just returned to stock chargers, which is where my truck is headed in a few days if no one steps up and efi live wants to jack cock with cummins trucks all day.
Hopefully tony will still write me some tunes when the cheeta comes off.