I dont think any "past money transactions" is going to make or break this... so IMO their not needed... past transactions doesnt really pay for new heads... Good move to talk to the machine shop Andrew :thumb:
LB7: Heads
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If I sold something that a shop told me was good to go I would get to the bottom of it before I refunded for it. Give him time to talk to the shops and see what they have to see-sounds like he had no clue that he was selling something that wasn't 100% ready to go. He took the word of a machine shop. Don't hate on him for wanting to get to the bottom of it. Now at the end of the day it is kind of on him to make it right, but he damn sure deserves a chance to figure out what is going on since a shop told him that. Maybe the keyboard ninjas should take a break until time has been given to talk to the shops.
I know both Corey and Andrew, used to talk with Andrew way before he worked at suncoast, and well before he had a properly running truck. Andrew went through a ton of bullshit over his truck with his last employer when it was initially built, so I don't think he would want anyone to go through what he did.
I've known Corey for quite some time as well, hell he lives kinda near by and has been over numerous times and hung out.
With that being said, I don't believe either one of them would purposely rip someone off or try and "unload" something. As I wouldn't.
But in the end, someone has to take responsibility in the transaction, yeah it sucks to have to refund someone. But honestly thats what I would do in this situation. I've never seen the heads Andrew sent out, but that picture Corey posted of them look like garbage. And looking at the price he was charged to port all of them....it makes sense to me that it was done by hand. Maybe even with a file.....who knows, doesn't matter. I have seen the work of the machine shop that he had inspect them and they were beautifully done on a CNC machine.
But on the other hand, Corey bought a used item based off of generic terms. Personally I wouldn't have bought them sight unseen, but corey is slightly new to some of this. But can you really fault him for that....
Its impossible to really come to a conclusion on this with both parties completely satisfied, and that is the sucky part.
COREY- THIS IS STRAIGHT FROM THE MACHINE SHOP OWNER -
"Ok, tell him to send us the heads and we will fix/replace the guides/VJ no charge. There is no way the guides just pulled out of the head without being installed on the vehicle. He pays the freight both ways and we will fix the guides/VJ if that is the case, I am not going to get into an internet pissing match with a bunch of keyboard jockeys over who should do what. I can assure you if I knew there was an issue with the guides it would have been fixed. I don't even know the guy you sold them to but I would appreciate whomever it is not dragging our name through the mud before even contacting us to see if we are willing to help either him or yourself remedy the problem. The only way those guides would be stuck to the valves is if they were bent, or the heads got wet during storage/shipping. I am willing to help whomever, but I can't help anyone when they are expending their efforts to bash us/you on the internet rather than contact us and handle it like adults. Let me know……"
I'm willing to pay shipping. let me know
"Ok, tell him to send us the heads and we will fix/replace the guides/VJ no charge. There is no way the guides just pulled out of the head without being installed on the vehicle. He pays the freight both ways and we will fix the guides/VJ if that is the case, I am not going to get into an internet pissing match with a bunch of keyboard jockeys over who should do what. I can assure you if I knew there was an issue with the guides it would have been fixed. I don't even know the guy you sold them to but I would appreciate whomever it is not dragging our name through the mud before even contacting us to see if we are willing to help either him or yourself remedy the problem. The only way those guides would be stuck to the valves is if they were bent, or the heads got wet during storage/shipping. I am willing to help whomever, but I can't help anyone when they are expending their efforts to bash us/you on the internet rather than contact us and handle it like adults. Let me know……"
I'm willing to pay shipping. let me know
Well u cant really argue with that. He is tryin to make it right. And least the shop that originally did the work is upset about it to. Shows they care about there name and reputation. Hope it all turns out well for u guys. Nice to see people act like civil adults unlike some of the transactions goin around the boards lately.
Thank you for contacting the shop and explaining the issue... as i said before the work wasnt done for me it was done for you... and you got there blessing to sell them. I didnt and still dont feel it was my responsibility to chase the shop down... but i do appreciate you doing so in a timely manner. I didnt really want to come into public and start this kind of circus but honestly you left me no choice man. You even started this thread.. so i am sorry it had to be like this. It was just a matter of time that i wouldve been bashed for trying to somehow screw you on a deal so that is why i put everything i had out for everyone to see.
In regards to the shops statement about the heads getting wet or run...well unless my bed was getting somehow rained on to then idk how they would ever get wet... they sat at the foot of my bed since the day i received them. And several people on here know i live in a college town and i rent a room from an older gentleman. So no issues of getting wet there.... in regards to the whole being run thing. The only run time they have seen would've been the miles you put on your truck. My motor and turbo are completely stock and never broken apart from the factory. The only thing ive ever done to it is replace #6 injector with a gm reman... that is it. I have no other truck... although i wish i could afford that.
Now that thats all explained i will pay half the shipping. You do not have to pay the entire thing. I believe it is fair to split the cost to remedy this. I apparently am not the only person who has heads from this shop with similar issues.
so once again i am sorry that it came to this andrew but i paid for working heads and didnt have them. So naturally yes i was immediately on the defensive mode.
I will have them shipped out by the end of the week.. get me the verified address they want them shipped to and any note you want wrote on them... also i will have detailed pictures taken to have on record if needed.
Thank you.
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In regards to the shops statement about the heads getting wet or run...well unless my bed was getting somehow rained on to then idk how they would ever get wet... they sat at the foot of my bed since the day i received them. And several people on here know i live in a college town and i rent a room from an older gentleman. So no issues of getting wet there.... in regards to the whole being run thing. The only run time they have seen would've been the miles you put on your truck. My motor and turbo are completely stock and never broken apart from the factory. The only thing ive ever done to it is replace #6 injector with a gm reman... that is it. I have no other truck... although i wish i could afford that.
Now that thats all explained i will pay half the shipping. You do not have to pay the entire thing. I believe it is fair to split the cost to remedy this. I apparently am not the only person who has heads from this shop with similar issues.
so once again i am sorry that it came to this andrew but i paid for working heads and didnt have them. So naturally yes i was immediately on the defensive mode.
I will have them shipped out by the end of the week.. get me the verified address they want them shipped to and any note you want wrote on them... also i will have detailed pictures taken to have on record if needed.
Thank you.
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Good to see what its like when 2 grown ass men can resolve an issue without bashing eachother till it just gets to the point of saying yo momma jokes, subd to see what the machine shop says and what theyll do to make this right, especially when they look at the porting that was supposedly done!!!:roflmao: Oh and Andrew im still waiting for my Suncoast stickers!! haha
Cory- you're acting like this bothers me in some say, When It doesn't bother me at all. This was never meant to be a secret or swept under a rug like you're trying to make it sound. I posted in here to see what members thought i should do or if anyone has dealt with similar situation because i've never been in a situation like this before/have nothing to hide. I didn't knowingly sell you something that was bad to try and pawn off on you.
if you notice, i never once left any detail out, was prompt with my responses and continued to keep my offer out while talking with the shop on the backside even while your buddy tried to slam me and bring my place of work into it. I never once said "No i will not help, **** off" I've been on the your end before, but with a lot more money on the line (which is irrelevant) and i remember exactly what it felt like. (as JMaz stated) and i would never knowingly put anyone in that situation.
One thing i have learned is to keep cool and not let my emotions get in the way of making logical, fair decisions (for me or you) and never point the finger prematurely. I've done it before and afterwards wished that i had gone about things differently. I actually like having all my bridges intact. With all this being said i hope you're happy with the end state. I have your cell, i will text you the address and a UPS account number to save on shipping.
if you notice, i never once left any detail out, was prompt with my responses and continued to keep my offer out while talking with the shop on the backside even while your buddy tried to slam me and bring my place of work into it. I never once said "No i will not help, **** off" I've been on the your end before, but with a lot more money on the line (which is irrelevant) and i remember exactly what it felt like. (as JMaz stated) and i would never knowingly put anyone in that situation.
One thing i have learned is to keep cool and not let my emotions get in the way of making logical, fair decisions (for me or you) and never point the finger prematurely. I've done it before and afterwards wished that i had gone about things differently. I actually like having all my bridges intact. With all this being said i hope you're happy with the end state. I have your cell, i will text you the address and a UPS account number to save on shipping.
I am happy with the end state. I will be awaiting the details on ups and address. Lets just get them fixed and dont look back. Thank you again.
Ps. Polaris 7x still wants a sticker i have a suncoast performance one that i can give him if you wish to just save the money for shipping it. I will give him mine. i know where he lives
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Ps. Polaris 7x still wants a sticker i have a suncoast performance one that i can give him if you wish to just save the money for shipping it. I will give him mine. i know where he lives
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haha it's all good. I'm waiting for everything to come back to the shop from Fall Fuel Fest. Maybe if he's lucky i'll put a shirt in there for waiting patiently :thumb:
Hey you can send all the stickers you want, the little boys love putting them on there little tool boxes!!