LB7: Heads
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opcorn:
Corey,
I offered to pay half of the bill for the valve job. i provided you with all machine shop documentation necessary such as build sheets and receipts. They were still in the machine shop bags if i remember correctly. All of this was necessary for you to determine if you wanted to buy or not. Included detailed pictures where you or anyone else could of looked to say yes or no on the sale. i think my offer is more than fair given the situation… I've sold a lot of items on here (personally) and would never and have never tried to "pull" one over or try to take advantage of anyone. My offer still stands. Your call bud
I offered to pay half of the bill for the valve job. i provided you with all machine shop documentation necessary such as build sheets and receipts. They were still in the machine shop bags if i remember correctly. All of this was necessary for you to determine if you wanted to buy or not. Included detailed pictures where you or anyone else could of looked to say yes or no on the sale. i think my offer is more than fair given the situation… I've sold a lot of items on here (personally) and would never and have never tried to "pull" one over or try to take advantage of anyone. My offer still stands. Your call bud
i have a set of ported and polished LB7 These heads are complete and ready to be installed. I have build sheet from Geddes racing for all labor and information. $1200.00 buyer pays shipping. I can post pictures or send pictures to who ever wants to see. heads with Comp hardware.
Corey,
Your Duramax heads should be gone through prior to using. During disassembly for the flow test you requested, several valves were "stuck" in their guides and had to be driven out. Some of the guide liners started to come out with the valve. The lack of clearance can cause the valve to "seized up" in the guide which can result in piston to valve contact and/or broken rocker arms. The valves that were not "stuck" in their guides were very loose, which causes oil consumption.
I hope this explains the problem for you. Sorry about the bad news. This can you all be corrected with guide work and a fresh valve job.
At the very least i feel that you should cover the entire valve job. Considering these were sold as usuable heads.. i am willing to work with you but i feel as if im getting short changed here. and the only documentation you have ever provided me with is the above picture of you entire build bill...
Corey,
Your Duramax heads should be gone through prior to using. During disassembly for the flow test you requested, several valves were "stuck" in their guides and had to be driven out. Some of the guide liners started to come out with the valve. The lack of clearance can cause the valve to "seized up" in the guide which can result in piston to valve contact and/or broken rocker arms. The valves that were not "stuck" in their guides were very loose, which causes oil consumption.
I hope this explains the problem for you. Sorry about the bad news. This can you all be corrected with guide work and a fresh valve job.
At the very least i feel that you should cover the entire valve job. Considering these were sold as usuable heads.. i am willing to work with you but i feel as if im getting short changed here. and the only documentation you have ever provided me with is the above picture of you entire build bill...
I could see a week after you buy or even a month but 3 months later asking for a refund? Idk up to the buyer but seems pretty generous to pay half the valve job.
you have the Machine shops name and number! You can't call and say hey, i bought a set of heads from """" trying to see what exactly was done to them? I don't know your shop, just like you don't know the shop that did these. As stated above by Nathaniel that he's had situations like yours arise from the same machine shop. When i sold these heads to you, i physically picked them up from the shop and watched them flow tested. so i'm having a hard time believing that there was all of this "damage" how do i know your shop isn't just saying " its shit work" to get some work? Given all of the uncertainties of the situation my offer is there. You can take it or leave it
as stated before i have not had time to send these out as we have been on a huge maintenance shut down at work.. any spare time i had was spent taking care of home and family.. i just now got to send them out... that is my fault for not getting them checked in a timely manner.. but considering no one is on here to screw anyone i assumed they were as stated and ready to be used...
It would be your responseablity to contact the machine shop you had the work done sounds like your pushing your bad shit on to someone else.Corey bought the heads from you as the end user you should make it right Andrew.If you question the head porting guys findings why dont you place a call tomorrow and talk to him your self?He said he would gladly talk to you.If i sell bad parts ill take them back i dont sell crap and i dont want to pawn it off on anyone else i can personally vouch for corey and he is not here to scam anyone.
If the first machine shop said they were good to go why would he have to take them in to have them checked out?
Looking at the pics I would say there was issues. Hopefully things work out the best and the right thing gets done here.
Looking at the pics I would say there was issues. Hopefully things work out the best and the right thing gets done here.
Your opinion is your opinion. I didn't try to hide this, I was the one who brought it up to see what peoples .02 was. I sold him the heads with pictures and documentation, anything he would of needed to make a logical decision. I've never tried to "pawn" anything off on anyone so that comment is completely irreverent to me. Anyone that i've ever sold a part from would tell you that. I have nothing to hide here, i offered to help out. The machine shop talking to me isn't going do any good as i'm not a machinist, which is why i suggested that he have the machine shop call Geddes.
Well when you sell heads as ready to bolt on and they are messed up I guess you need to take responseability for your sale and either refund or make them useable as stated by you.
if Andrew is being honest (and I think he is) sounds like you guys need to be mad at the machine shop-not each other. If this is a shop that does a lot of work they are going to care if their name is about to be drug though the mud, either way I think you guys need to get someone that knows what they are looking at that you trust, and talk to the shop that said they were good to go. Maybe they over looked something. I would be pissed if I bought a set of heads that were ready to bolt on that ended up needing work. I would also be pissed if a shop told me something was good to go and it wasn't.
At least get refunded whatever the shop charged you to check them out and use that to make it right
At least get refunded whatever the shop charged you to check them out and use that to make it right
Motor
Form what I see whoever did both port jobs needs there grinder taken away! If I bought a set of heads that the guides were coming out of and were sold as bolt on's I would be pissed! Just because you (seller) got a stroken now you want to pass it on. Not cool at all. There sure are a lot of shoddy machine shops out there.
Form what I see whoever did both port jobs needs there grinder taken away! If I bought a set of heads that the guides were coming out of and were sold as bolt on's I would be pissed! Just because you (seller) got a stroken now you want to pass it on. Not cool at all. There sure are a lot of shoddy machine shops out there.
Yes but Corey doesnt have any claim to the heads being done by Andrew he would have to call his machine shop and bitch at them he is the 1 that paid for good heads and had them suposedly checked and got an ok to sell as good,they will tell Corey to go scratch.If godd useable heads were sold then thats what they should be.I would hate to get my Suncoast trans warrentied by him i guess your s.o.l.
Once again, this has nothing to do with Suncoast. Never has. You should know that slandering me will get you no where with me personally. I'm a very honest person and have nothing to hide. I've offered my help. He can contact me if he chooses to take it. Until that happens… i will do my part to get in contact with the machine shop and show them everything that has been brought fourth to see what they have to say.
I have purchased from Andrew once. Transaction went great and he got me gaskets I needed at no charge. All that aside, the buyer purchased what was said to be ready to go and good working order. He paid and now he has a problem. That sucks. If it were me I'd be upset. Both these guys seem reasonable and not quick to anger. I hope they can work this out with reason and logic. And as far as time elapsing after the sale, how many members here have parts on a shelf awaiting a build? Are they new in the box? Do builds take a long time? Do sane people store expensive heads with care? I doubt he damaged them.
agreed. i think it would be a nice good faith effort on your part andrew if you contacted the original machine shop and said "i ran these heads 1000 miles and they are junk. you guys screwed me. make it right." the machine shop doesn't need to know you sold them to someone else. it would look like you are trying to fix a bad situation in my eyes anyway. of course i can guess what the shop's probably going to say...
A good suggestion that would demonstrate the sellers good intention of trying to help.
you are correct this has nothing to do with suncoast and there products... it has to do with the principle of the matter at hand and the character aspects being reflected on this.... what you sold me was not up to what you were advertising.. your sale stated that they were ready to be used... i luckily had enough sense to have them checked out before i put them on my motor... im glad i did or your port and polished complete heads very well could have destroyed a 10 thousand dollar investment just because your shop did shady work and you reciprocated it to me. you sold ready to use heads.. they arent... either pay to make them usable or ill send them back and you can refund me in full.. and then take them back to your shop and have them explain it... this isnt my problem.. its yours.. you sold me a faulty product...
i couldnt agree more sir...
i couldnt agree more sir...
As i've stated previously, i never said i wouldn't help. I'm more than willing to work with him. However, i most certainly will have every little detail before i make a logical decision. I know right from wrong, and if i thought or knew that there was something wrong then i would have never sold them to him. Like i said above "i will do my part to get in contact with the machine shop and show them everything that has been brought fourth to see what they have to say"