Fuel Cooler

moparkxracer

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I did mine for flow reasons, with the fueling in my sig.. I know the stock one was not going to be able to flow what was possibly trying to go through it. If I was trying to do it for hp cooling I'd run the lines through an ice box similar to what most here do with intercooler boost tubes or what gas race cars do. It's a street truck not a race truck was just wanting more flow.
 

juddski88

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One thing I haven't tried yet, but have purchased for whenever I manage to get my truck back on the track, is the DEI CryO2 fuel cooler block. I already use the CryO2 system for air induction, so I plan to supply a second solenoid for the fuel cooler which will be pre-cp3s. I have another temp sensor to plumb in too for before/after temp logging and as always I'll post my results here someplace.
 

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Does anyone know how well something like this would work, mounted on the frame rail somewhere? Maybe on the outside of the frame?

Only about $40 on ebay...

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juddski88

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Does anyone know how well something like this would work, mounted on the frame rail somewhere? Maybe on the outside of the frame?

Only about $40 on ebay...

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I would bet that putting it somewhere in the front stack where the fans are pulling air by it would make it more effective. try it out.
 

Chevy1925

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Before I put a cooler on and cruising down the freeway in 110* ambient my fuel temps ran 210-220 empty, after cooler it stays around 170. I have a transfer flow tank that blocks the factory cooler :mad:. When I come across a 6spd cooler ill replace the factory one.

is the 6 speed cooler better? i have one from brian and it looks the same as my 02 :confused:

Are some of you putting a cooler after the LP? If so, are you still able to hold rail?

the AD2 hooks into the return line prior to the fuel cooler, thats how mine is ran currently but its still a stock cooler as well
 

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Yes, it is a simple concept. The fuel tank will act as a partial heat sink, more so when it’s cold. But over time the tank will heat up and lose effectiveness. It will take more time with a full tank, but none the less it will heat up and not do much to cool the fuel.
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Take a look at the fuel cup I’m speaking about. The return line (right) literally dumps hot fuel right back into the pickup (left) while being supplemented by fresh fuel from the bottom. The ratio of fresh fuel to recycled hot fuel is determined by the flow rate of the pump, and unknown:
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The cup clips into the sending unit/bowl cover:
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And then the bowl covers the entire assembly:
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As you can see, the little cup is the biggest enemy to the fuel tank heat sink effectiveness. If you separated the return line and dumped the fuel elsewhere in the tank the concept would work better. But then you’d have fuel starvation problems when the tank runs low.
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I’d love to see your extensive testing/data linking fuel tank volume, and fuel temperature, while also noting air temp, and engine run time. Fuel volume WILL certainly have an effect, but it will not be substantial. I’d be interested to be proven wrong or right either way as these are just my own observations.

(Please note that although this IS a factory Duramax fuel tank pickup assembly, I have modified the mounting flange and hoses to suit my installation. That's why it looks strange)


Sorry, but I'm not buying it. I don't believe its recycling at the rate you think it is unless the fuel level is getting low.
 

Bread

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Sorry, but I'm not buying it. I don't believe its recycling at the rate you think it is unless the fuel level is getting low.

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I agree. My testing showed otherwise.

I pulled the return line with the lift pump running and the fuel literally sprays out of the hose (Savana). The engine is only burning around 30oz/min, which is a slow trickle in comparison. But like I said, let's see the data results from the "extensive testing". I'm seriously interested if you would like to post up. It's always good to learn about this stuff based on factual information.

Either that or don't make ridiculous blanket statements about never running the tank less than 1/4.
 

Mike L.

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I pulled the return line with the lift pump running and the fuel literally sprays out of the hose (Savana). The engine is only burning around 30oz/min, which is a slow trickle in comparison. But like I said, let's see the data results from the "extensive testing". I'm seriously interested if you would like to post up. It's always good to learn about this stuff based on factual information.

Either that or don't make ridiculous blanket statements about never running the tank less than 1/4.

You are really stupid. You offered nothing but BS and you call it tech. You never did any testing except what you think you saw on your van. Wrong vehichle.

Now as far as telling me not to post my comments; get real. You know nothing and have nothing to offer in this subject.
Now be nice and do some research. Don't come back with a bad attitude. Do some testing on a Duramax PU with gauges and logs.
My data is long gone because of idiots like you. I no longer am interested in fuel cooling. I posted info to help people and inform them.
 

Cknight199

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So just to get this straight, does it matter where you hook the fuel cooler up in the system? Wouldn't it be most economical to put it in the return line, but it looks like some have put it in their feed line before/after the fuel filter.

Also, what would you recommend for the best way to flush the trans cooler out.
 

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You are really stupid. You offered nothing but BS and you call it tech. You never did any testing except what you think you saw on your van. Wrong vehichle.

Now as far as telling me not to post my comments; get real. You know nothing and have nothing to offer in this subject.
Now be nice and do some research. Don't come back with a bad attitude. Do some testing on a Duramax PU with gauges and logs.
My data is long gone because of idiots like you. I no longer am interested in fuel cooling. I posted info to help people and inform them.

Your "help" consisted of broadly stating people should not to run their fuel tanks lower than 1/4 because your "extensive" research reveals extreme fuel temps. I posted pictures to support my theory, you have posted nothing. And now you're conveniently "no longer interested in fuel cooling". Between the two of us, you're the only one creating fact-less gossip. I don't know why you're getting so butt hurt about being called out on an internet truck forum to support your claims.

It's really not a big deal. As I said before, I'd be interested in your data no matter which theory it proves correct. I haven't found any information supporting yours, so that's why I'm asking. No need to stomp around like a child saying "you are really stupid".
 

Mike L.

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So just to get this straight, does it matter where you hook the fuel cooler up in the system? Wouldn't it be most economical to put it in the return line, but it looks like some have put it in their feed line before/after the fuel filter.

Also, what would you recommend for the best way to flush the trans cooler out.

If I was to go racing, I would put one on the return right before the tank and install a larger one behind the grill going into the filter. If you could get your fuel under 100F you would be kicking some serious ass. 75 F is ultimate.

Cooler flushing can be done by using high pressure air. If it's a restrictive factory cooler, you may never get the crap out as the tubes are too narrow. Hot ATF under pressure is the absolute best way as the heat will expand the tubes to allow the crap an easier way out.
 

Cknight199

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If I was to go racing, I would put one on the return right before the tank and install a larger one behind the grill going into the filter. If you could get your fuel under 100F you would be kicking some serious ass. 75 F is ultimate.



Cooler flushing can be done by using high pressure air. If it's a restrictive factory cooler, you may never get the crap out as the tubes are too narrow. Hot ATF under pressure is the absolute best way as the heat will expand the tubes to allow the crap an easier way out.


This may be a very dumb question, but can coolers cool lower than ambient air temp? Never thought of it but I feel like they can if they have air flowing through them good
 

juddski88

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Your "help" consisted of broadly stating people should not to run their fuel tanks lower than 1/4 because your "extensive" research reveals extreme fuel temps. I posted pictures to support my theory, you have posted nothing. And now you're conveniently "no longer interested in fuel cooling". Between the two of us, you're the only one creating fact-less gossip. I don't know why you're getting so butt hurt about being called out on an internet truck forum to support your claims.

It's really not a big deal. As I said before, I'd be interested in your data no matter which theory it proves correct. I haven't found any information supporting yours, so that's why I'm asking. No need to stomp around like a child saying "you are really stupid".

You haven't been searching long enough to find his data. It is publically posted..but this is not nearly the first time the topic has been covered.