First aluminum duramax rod!!

JOHNBOY

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Haas is the Chevette of machine tools. Nobody in the industry can touch Haas's size, and features when affordability is taken in concern.

We have a large frame Webb knee mill with a 40 taper, 2 Milltronics bed mills with 40 tapers, and use to have a mid 80's Mazak mill with a 40 taper. None of these machines come close to the accuracy, reliability, power, and the rigidity of our Haas vf-3. Wait a couple years. I do agree that is was better then the others you have listed. But we had a VF3 and no longer do for good reason.

Is there better machines out there then Haas??? Sure, but your going to pay for them. Is Haas Junk??? Not even close.Depends on the market you are in. In the market your in they might just fine, but in the Aerospace market they dont hold up. Making them just cheap. Value is about what return you get your dollar. Spending less does not always insure a value. Higher costs of up keep, higher down time, increased tool consumption, lower product volume, lower quality of finished product, and longer setup times all can and do cut into your bottom line. I have been down that road and back. I dont mind if my competition has Haas equipment.
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JoshH

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I am constantly amazed at the knowledge and willingness to share that some members of this board display.
 

dmaxvaz

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WOW THIS THREAD REALLY WENT OFF BASE HERE, FROM ALUMINUM RODS TO BS IN BETWEEN TO MACHINING TITANIUM TO TALKING ABOUT MACHINING TOOLS TO WHAT BRAND OF MACHINING TOOLS IS THE CORVETTE AND WHICH IS THE CHEVETTE OF THE TWO. :confused:
 

WolfLMM

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Haas is the Corvette of machine tools. Nobody in the industry can touch Haas's size, and features when affordability is taken in concern.

We have a large frame Webb knee mill with a 40 taper, 2 Milltronics bed mills with 40 tapers, and use to have a mid 80's Mazak mill with a 40 taper. None of these machines come close to the accuracy, reliability, power, and the rigidity of our Haas vf-3.

Is there better machines out there then Haas??? Sure, but your going to pay for them. Is Haas Junk??? Not even close.


Where can I get some of that dope?. My father and I own a large aerospace machine shop. I may not be a machinist, but I far more than a button pusher.


2nd underlined part. You should try a mori seiki or makino.

On EDIT: Mazak is junk too, just when you need it most, it'll go down.
 
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dmaxlover

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We've only had the VF-3 for less than 3 years so I can only comment on how well it's held up so far, but how's it going to be 5 years from now??? We'll find out.
We are not a production shop, and rarely see over a parts quantity of 20, but we do a ton of development which requires many different tools, setups, and programs.
Right now I have 450 different part programs stored in the machine with materials ranging from 6061 AL to Monel, and tools ranging from .06 endmills to 3.175 facemills, to 1.75 inserted drills.

Just stating as of yet, the machine hasn't missed a beat, and imo it's far from junk.
 

McRat

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You being a God and all, I'm sure you could do much better with your drill press.:stupid:

Relax sport. Figured you like communicating by talking down to others, so I wanted you to feel at home. ;)

I started making chips the year you were born. I was machining landing gear boxes for DC-10's when you were still in diapers. 2000lb aluminum forgings. I've never hit the green button on a NC/CNC/DNC machine. All the various machines I ran were all manuals, and few if any had DRO's. You read dials, venier scales, and optics.

Ever run a jig bore? We were the guys who saved parts from the scrap bin by moving a hole 0.0005", or held the true position of .0002" on compound angle feature locations. We never got a second chance at anything. You hit the mark, or you lost your job.

Back then, all of us considered guys like you button pushers since you always got extra stock to play with, and you left the hard stuff for us.