Allison 6sp: Erratic Shifting, and Intermittent Lockup with P0960

TwistedDiesel

Road Oiler
Nov 15, 2013
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I have a 06 6spd in a Toyota pickup behind a Detroit Diesel. I am using a medium duty A50 TCM that my Allison dealer flashed for me to match a 1000 series 6 spd to CAT 4cyl engine. When I first drove it, I had no lockup at all, it learned to shift all 6 gears nicely, and I was really happy with it except for no lockup and really poor fuel economy. It also had about 50 codes, and I couldn't get them to clear with any of my scantools.

Just recently I had some more time to play with it, so I connected EFI and proceeded to pull the cal, only to find EFI does not have my OS mapped out.

Now the strange part is after trying to pull the cal, I took it out on the road and BANG! I had tc lock. Just about jumped the truck in the air when it locked and unlocked about three times really quickly, but for the rest of the day it kept learning to shift better and I had lockup!

The next morning I had no lockup, but noticed if I drove it for a few miles, shut it off, restarted it, it would bang into lockup again, and it seemed like it had to re-learn shifting all over again as well.

The only code I have is P0960, whether it wants to lock or not, it's there.

I can force lockup at any time with my scan tool.

With the engine off I can command the G solenoid on and off and hear it click just fine. I have also wiggled all the wiring with an ohm meter across the TCM connector pins and it seems rock solid at about 23.5 ohms. The code always comes up immediately at startup.

I called Mike the other day and he suggested changing the G sol, which I did with no difference at all.

The only other thing I noticed different about this trans, is when it is in reverse, I can hear a slight hissing sound. The best way to describe the noise is the way a brand new clutch sounds when you lightly slip it, -ssssssssss, only here I'm sure it's fluid.

So Mike, I'm hoping after all this extra information is done making your brain spin, you might have some more ideas. And I'm sorry about posting my whole life story, but you never know what's going to be important!

Thanks for your help the other day, and maybe we can get this thing going here!
 

TwistedDiesel

Road Oiler
Nov 15, 2013
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Linden TN
Ok so it took me all day to get the No. 4 O-Ring boss/hose/gauge setup, we don't have parts houses open sunday around here.... and here are the results.

My gauge is not that accurate, I had a choice of 100 psi or 2500 psi, sooo.
At startup: 140 psi
reverse, 140 psi
D: 135 psi
TC lock, 75 psi
TC unlock back to 140 psi

If I command Sol G on it goes to somewhere between 30 and 50, not sure with the gauge I have, and then G off, back to 140.

Now if I force TC lock, I get 75 psi
but then on unlock, I get what looks like maybe 50, it's right down on the peg after forced lock where it should be 140.

Any clues or do I need to find a better gauge first?
 
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TwistedDiesel

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Nov 15, 2013
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Linden TN
Hey mike, if it's easier on the phone, just let me know, I just feel like i'm just one of the millions who want your help, and I sure don't want to bother you with phone calls unless it's better for you.
 

TwistedDiesel

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Nov 15, 2013
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Linden TN
OK, It seems like it has something to do with oil temperature, It doesn't work in the cold at all.

I Also started the engine and left the TCU off, when I energized the TCU, it looks like it tries to energize sol G for a second, and errors out almost instantly.
 

TwistedDiesel

Road Oiler
Nov 15, 2013
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Linden TN
I finally put 1 300lb gauge on it, and have all the correct pressures, but after driving it for a little while, I had another code for TPS low input, I changed my TPS for one that shows about 6.5% angle at idle, so that is fixed.

I also wired a solenoid in right at the TCM, and no more P0960, so it's gotta be wiring somewhere even though my multimeter sees the same ohms at the tcm connector on both the external and internal. Beats me.

Now, I have a P0702, no other codes, makes no sense to me. I hope I didn't short the TCM heatsink to ground and fry it. But I have lockup every time now!