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My first question....What kind of power do you guys and gals think the gt4088 will put out with dual fuelers

2nd question. How long do you think the engine would last. I Would just be using the truck for pulling only.I know people like tomac have ran for a long time with a combo similar. But i think those were freak engines that they had

3rd question. If i had a extra block for my truck what would you get to build it on a budget sort of speak

Rods, what brand? there saying now the Crowers are very inconsistent?

lower the compression on the pistons to what? Should i have someone like EEP do this
Bigger injectors? I would probably go with Don M's

stock cam and stock heads
head and main studs. But what brand ARP?
Just some questions.
All opinions and awnsers are welcome:hug:
 
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Is the gt4088 pedistal the same as the gt42....that would be nice if you could swap them out if you ever wanted to go bigger
 
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ecc_33 said:
Is the gt4088 pedistal the same as the gt42....that would be nice if you could swap them out if you ever wanted to go bigger
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The pedistal is the same.

That one I can answer.

We ran the 4088 with dual fuelers for a while. We shortend the rods with gt42. It lasted one pass :eek: Before it started blowing white smoke.

Edit- We are using ARP studs in this engine and they are also going in backup engine.
 
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ecc_33 said:
My first question....What kind of power do you guys and gals think the gt4088 will put out with dual fuelers

We Got 618 RWHP

2nd question. How long do you think the engine would last. I Would just be using the truck for pulling only.I know people like tomac have ran for a long time with a combo similar. But i think those were freak engines that they had

Our has lasted for 8 months and 40 quarter mile passes so far

3rd question. If i had a extra block for my truck what would you get to build it on a budget sort of speak

Stage 1 heads, a comp cam, carrillo Rods, LB7 pistons cut, coated and de lipped

Rods, what brand? there saying now the Crowers are very inconsistent?

Carrillo

lower the compression on the pistons to what? Should i have someone like EEP do this
Bigger injectors? I would probably go with Don M's

Pistons to 15.5:1 for a mild build or 15:1 for more extreme, na dde lip the bowl, and coat it

stock cam and stock heads
head and main studs. But what brand ARP? ARP
Just some questions.
All opinions and awnsers are welcome:hug:
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thanks for the awnsers

Dieselson do you guys de tune the truck or leave it all the time with the big tune loaded. How many miles on the engine?
8 months and over 40 passes is pretty damn good!
 
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ecc_33 said:
My first question....What kind of power do you guys and gals think the gt4088 will put out with dual fuelers I could easily you could get beleive over 600hp

2nd question. How long do you think the engine would last. I Would just be using the truck for pulling only.I know people like tomac have ran for a long time with a combo similar. But i think those were freak engines that they had

Who knows? If you want it to last I would go the turbo and leave it just on pump.

3rd question. If i had a extra block for my truck what would you get to build it on a budget sort of speak

Rods, what brand? there saying now the Crowers are very inconsistent?

Talk to Guy for a straight answer on Crowers. I have them they are fine. If had to do it again I would buy Carrillos. The best money you can spend is in the bottomend. Do not skimp there. ARP just released a Main stud side kit for the Dmax. Guy has them at good price. My set just showed up. They cost less that the just stud kit I bought 3 months ago!:eek:

lower the compression on the pistons to what? Should i have someone like EEP do this
Bigger injectors? I would probably go with Don M's
Depends on several things. First off use LB7/ LLY pistons. Removing the lip will get you to around 16.5 : 1 a by itself. Cam choice has alot due with your pistons. If you run a cam bigger than stock I reccomend pist clearencing. With what Fingers discovered in the valve train it finally explains why people are having valve to piston issues even with a .08 clearcence. Hopfully the fix I have in mind works. Then we ca run less clearence safely. I am at 15 : 1 with lip removed. .015 faced of the top, A .125 raduis from the top of the piston to the bowl, and the spot faces need to clear my cam. Again this is with the thin "A" gasket. EEP can do it and has, Guy at Socal can, I can, any Good machine shop should be able to. I want DonM fusion 3s I talked to Doug Smith the owner of PDW. He sells the and is a vendor on CompD. Really nice guy.

stock cam and stock heads
head and main studs. But what brand ARP?
Just some questions.

ARP!
All opinions and awnsers are welcome:hug:
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There is my $.02. Well more like a nickel.
 
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ecc_33 said:
thanks for the awnsers

Dieselson do you guys de tune the truck or leave it all the time with the big tune loaded. How many miles on the engine?
8 months and over 40 passes is pretty damn good!
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Pretty much big tune all the time, the occasion de-tuning to tow or for economy, we like to smoke people out.
 
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ecc_33 said:
Is the gt4088 pedistal the same as the gt42....that would be nice if you could swap them out if you ever wanted to go bigger
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You just need the spacer block to raise it if I'm not mistaken Eric. I don't know about the output cone though (the cone that goes on the output side of the charger).

I would get the core and start building before you do anything else man.

I run the carrillos too.

Nothing but ARPs every where possible (including the valve train and injector hold downs).

Oh yea! Balance the crank with the new components and have the mains line bored with the new studs.

REPLACE CRAP VALVE SPRINGS WITH GOOD STUFF FROM GUY, and only run emissions friendly cam if absolutely necessary ;).
 
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Actually, I messed it up for eveyone with about 5 minutes to go I hit the wrong button and took it up to 600 from 300.:(

I talked to the guy that was selling them last night and he is kicking himself for letting them go so cheap.
 
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This is what im thinking for next year!

shave the lip off the pistons, compression around 16/1?

Rods for sure
gt4088 turbo
dual cp3's
balancing the engine
keying the crank and cam
do you guys think that will hold and be fairly reliable considering the pistons dont crack? It wont be a daily driver just a sled puller with very few 1/4 mile passes

Do you think Main studs are a priority?

keep in mind im trying to build on a budget. If anyone dont think this will hold i will do more. I would love to do a full tilt engine but thats just not happening for awhile!
 
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Main studs when going serious is a must at min (my belief). The true cost is alot more than most think and adds big time to what the total is with the components cost because of all the other stuff involved. Now if it breaks right after the true build? When you get to the point where your building to stay competitive it starts getting realy expensive very quickly and this is a fact of life that you must prepare yourself for when entering that world. No short cuts available. Were doing a video of the build I'm doing now with still pic with credits to a short video when compleated. It will be interesting to say the least. This will be totaly backed up by a Mike L. & S.C. trans and will continue to evolve with new things that work as they come out (this has been this trucks weakest point in the past with the old inferior components it use to run).
 
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but if i get the 94 then i cant run the street class......
with the gt 4088 and some good dyno time tuning i should be running VERY well in the street class:)
 
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