Drones

[2004LB7]

No it’s pretty cut and dry. Shoot down an FAA registered aircraft and you get a nice fine and possible jail time. I don’t think people should hover over houses but I don’t need anyone’s permission to fly over their house in class G airspace.

People are so ignorant when it comes to drones it’s funny. OMG someone is looking at me! Consumer level drones don’t have zoom capability so for the operator to be spying they would have to be pretty damn close to you. If someone is hovering over you with a $10,000 commercial rig they’re just an asshole. Lol.

You may have forgotten that class G airspace isn't controlled by the FAA. Local states and counties make their regulations for this "uncontrolled" airspace

FAA hasn't made any laws regarding drones over private property but some states have. So once again it is not cut and dry. Know your local laws before flying.

I think many judges and courts would side with the property owner if the drone operator couldn't show valid evidence or reasining for flying closely over another's property without the property owners premission.

Just look at United States v. Causby, 328 U.S. 256 court case

"In 1946, the landmark case, United States v. Causby, 328 U.S. 256 (1946), the Supreme Court issued foundational guidance as to what extent private property owners actually own and may control airspace over their property."

"the Court addressed the seminal issue as to property invasion, trespass and occupation by flying at low-altitude in airspace over their property. The Court stated that landowners have “exclusive control of the immediate reaches of the enveloping atmosphere,” and that “the landowner owns at least as much of the space above the ground as they can occupy or use in connection with the land"

 

[beach_33]

Well this got heated quick. There is a lot with drones that is a pretty grey area. As I understand it you as a property owner own 400ft above your property. As far as my drone experience.... I love my drone much more than I thought I would. I have come up with many more ideas as far as used for it than I thought I would.

 

[TheBac]

Unfortunately, I'm not a fan of drones. Heaven help anyone who flies one over my house.

 

[DMAXchris]

Well this got heated quick. There is a lot with drones that is a pretty grey area. As I understand it you as a property owner own 400ft above your property. As far as my drone experience.... I love my drone much more than I thought I would. I have come up with many more ideas as far as used for it than I thought I would.

Nah not heated at all. Im part of several uAS organizations and we try to help educate.
You don’t own the airspace anywhere. Just be respectful of other people, go fly it and have fun. Make sure to post any cool videos you make.

Unfortunately, I'm not a fan of drones. Heaven help anyone who flies one over my house.

Like them or not people better get used to seeing them. uAS operation is about to explode in the next 5 years. Window washers, building inspections, construction site mapping, topography, EMS & police, farming, windmill cleaning are all industries that will be using drones extensively. One thing they won’t replace yet is the delivery driver. :hug:

 

[DMAXchris]

Yes, airport where Airforce 1 practices take offs and landings is within 5 miles... I'm not knocking your job, the ones I'm worried about are privately owned and are just assholes spying on people bc they are bored or up to no good looking for things to steal. Not all drone operators are innocent, it's a common practice for thieves to use them to case a place without even getting within a 1/2 mile of it now. So, if I see one over my house I know it's not legally up there and is up to illegal activity..:thumb:

After looking at a sectional chart, Wilmington is a sketchy area to operate in. It’s Class D, except when it’s Class E. I’m sure there’s NOTAMs constantly with all of the military bases around.

Did you know off shore fishing guys are using drones to drop bait? They even have special rigs to attach to the popular DJI products.
https://dronefishing.com/

 

[NC-smokinlmm]

After looking at a sectional chart, Wilmington is a sketchy area to operate in. It’s Class D, except when it’s Class E. I’m sure there’s NOTAMs constantly with all of the military bases around.

Did you know off shore fishing guys are using drones to drop bait? They even have special rigs to attach to the popular DJI products.
https://dronefishing.com/

Lots of military aircraft around here, sunny point is 15 miles away, it is the ammo depot for the east coast. Sketchy things go on around here.

Yes! I have seen the use of drones in fishing. I talked a customer into a DR drone to capture footage for his instructional videos. Pretty neat drone, it follows the boat around on the troll and takes badass video of the strike and fight...

 

[TheBac]

Nah not heated at all. Im part of several uAS organizations and we try to help educate.
You don’t own the airspace anywhere. Just be respectful of other people, go fly it and have fun. Make sure to post any cool videos you make.


Like them or not people better get used to seeing them. uAS operation is about to explode in the next 5 years. Window washers, building inspections, construction site mapping, topography, EMS & police, farming, windmill cleaning are all industries that will be using drones extensively. One thing they won’t replace yet is the delivery driver. :hug:

If the drone has a specific purpose to be used in public spaces as you describe, then ok. But if it is flying simply to spy on my property, whether its a private person or the police doing it, then its in violation of my personal privacy...and that trumps their right-to-fly.

BTW, I am still waiting for my propeller beanie to show up from Amazon so I can become an Amazon delivery drone. :roflmao:

 

[STLCHEVYHD]

I started working for a large construction company last fall as their VDC Survey Manager and we utilize drones for site photos, dirt quantities, building inspection etc. Passed my part 107 uas pilot exam a couple months ago. We have a couple 3DR Solos and took delivery of a DJI 210RTK last week. We use Sitescan for processing. When used right, these things are amazing and have become a must have for our toolbox!


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[830king]

Yesterday my neighbors buddy showed up with one. I don't know anything about what it was, it could have been I pile of crap but I have no idea. He did say he has a 3 mile range and could control and watch video all with what looked like a iPad. I was surprised how well it hovered in the wind without the wind effecting it. And when he took off it seemed to get up and move pretty quickly. I thought it was pretty neat for sure!

So I have a few questions....
1. Can they carry cargo or anything?
2. We have trees around here and no leaves on them yet and this guy was zipping around pretty close to the trees without hitting them. Was this guy that good or does it have capabilities of steering around things all on it own?


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[DMAXchris]

I started working for a large construction company last fall as their VDC Survey Manager and we utilize drones for site photos, dirt quantities, building inspection etc. Passed my part 107 uas pilot exam a couple months ago. We have a couple 3DR Solos and took delivery of a DJI 210RTK last week. We use Sitescan for processing. When used right, these things are amazing and have become a must have for our toolbox!


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Ooooooo thats a sick commercial rig! Waaaayyyyyy outta my price range for sure. :rofl: I use Drone Deploy since I'm not a huge outfit.

Yesterday my neighbors buddy showed up with one. I don't know anything about what it was, it could have been I pile of crap but I have no idea. He did say he has a 3 mile range and could control and watch video all with what looked like a iPad. I was surprised how well it hovered in the wind without the wind effecting it. And when he took off it seemed to get up and move pretty quickly. I thought it was pretty neat for sure!

So I have a few questions....
1. Can they carry cargo or anything?
2. We have trees around here and no leaves on them yet and this guy was zipping around pretty close to the trees without hitting them. Was this guy that good or does it have capabilities of steering around things all on it own?


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I've had mine out in some windy conditions. They will try so hard to hold position that it can actually crack the plastic on the arms. Its very impressive.

1. The consumer models cant carry any significant weight. Maybe extra 2-3 pounds without severely risking damage to the battery. For any payload you need an octocopter.
2. If it was a Phantom 4 Pro it has radar. It will avoid obstacles and warn you when getting too close. It depends on skill of the operator. I can fly mine pretty much anywhere big enough for it to fit.

 

[DMAXchris]

I think some of you might be intrigued by the FPV drones that we race. They have a super high nerd factor. These are custom built, usually by the person flying it. There are Ready-to-Fly models available but anyone who is serious builds their own.

There are hundreds of different motors, flight controllers, electronic speed controllers and prop combos out there. These drones use 3 phase motors capable of handling 140 AMP bursts of current and we use 4-6 cell batteries that discharge from 14.8-22.2 Volts. Flight times vary depending on motor and prop combo. They are capable of 100+ MPH speeds. We use specialty versions of security cameras on the drones and we wear goggles with LED screens to see out of the drone in a First Person View. They can be tuned with PID loops using software on the desktop or by using your transmitter.

 

[STLCHEVYHD]

Ooooooo thats a sick commercial rig! Waaaayyyyyy outta my price range for sure. :rofl: I use Drone Deploy since I'm not a huge outfit.







We get to do a lot of beta testing for 3DR and Autodesk BIM360 so it’s pretty neat. The Solo has worked pretty well but we’ve managed to knock the props off of it a few times! I obliterated one on a launch a couple weeks ago. It was auto landing and I took over to avoid a car and pounded it in the pavement. It bounced and flipped knocking the props off. We inspected it and put a new set of MS props on. It went up about 15’, started shaking and spit a prop off and then ate pavement again. This time it scattered in pieces everywhere.

That new 210 is suppose to have collision avoidance on it. I really don’t want to test it out!


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[wilrob]

I think some of you might be intrigued by the FPV drones that we race. They have a super high nerd factor. These are custom built, usually by the person flying it. There are Ready-to-Fly models available but anyone who is serious builds their own. /QUOTE]

I want to try building one, but the amount of parts and lack of knowledge have always stopped me. The FPV looks like an absolute blast.

 

[DMAXchris]

I think some of you might be intrigued by the FPV drones that we race. They have a super high nerd factor. These are custom built, usually by the person flying it. There are Ready-to-Fly models available but anyone who is serious builds their own. /QUOTE]



I want to try building one, but the amount of parts and lack of knowledge have always stopped me. The FPV looks like an absolute blast.

There’s some really good YouTube channels out there for FPV. That’s where I learned everything. Check out Joshua Bardwell and Project Blue Falcon. They have everything you need to know to start flying.


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[DMAXchris]

Here’s a few pics of what we use and fly.

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[DMAXchris]

My YouTube is https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsggE2dP5howKi_tK08KmrA


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[SmokeShow]

We have DJI Matrice 210 for work. I'm in civil/environmental engineering - specifically solid waste (aka landfills) permitting, design, construction quality control, environmental monitoring/sampling, etc. We use the drone for some images but mostly for topography surveying. We're currently using Propeller to process the imagery/data. Then we extract the data to AutoCAD Civil 3D for contouring and mapping.

I'd love to see us get enough work to justify a Wingstra in the future.

 

[SmokeShow]

I started working for a large construction company last fall as their VDC Survey Manager and we utilize drones for site photos, dirt quantities, building inspection etc. Passed my part 107 uas pilot exam a couple months ago. We have a couple 3DR Solos and took delivery of a DJI 210RTK last week. We use Sitescan for processing. When used right, these things are amazing and have become a must have for our toolbox!


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We have the same machine except we got the unit without the RTK. How do you all like it so far? We're starting to really love it now that we're getting the data processed correctly. We are currently using Propeller to process the data and then export to ACAD Civil 3D for contouring and mapping.

Is Sitescan a subscription? I'm going to look into it in case it's cheaper or somehow better than what we're currently using. :thumb:

 

[STLCHEVYHD]

We have the same machine except we got the unit without the RTK. How do you all like it so far? We're starting to really love it now that we're getting the data processed correctly. We are currently using Propeller to process the data and then export to ACAD Civil 3D for contouring and mapping.



Is Sitescan a subscription? I'm going to look into it in case it's cheaper or somehow better than what we're currently using. :thumb:

It’s super sweet! We flew the Maryville University campus yesterday along with some overlap which was about 151 acres. Flew a nadir flight and a cross-hatch flight in about 3 hours. We had set up GCP’s that morning all over campus. The RTK function isn’t really online yet but we have it when it’s ready. I can’t believe how much more stable it is flying and the pics are impressive. Sitescan is by 3DR and is a cloud based processing and flying tool. I don’t think it’s cheap but it works really well.


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[SmokeShow]

Yeah, propeller is a cloud-based processing software/interface. I'm forgetting which software we use for flying since I'm not the one actually out flying it daily. Our guys can't stand the android pad/tablet that came with it. Everyone seems to prefer the ipad mini we got for it before the flight control software was even available for the android pad they give us with it. LOL