Dodge brake conversation

JoshH

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My stock hydroboost has been leaking for a while, so I bought a new AC Delco LML booster, new pressure lines, and some Redline power steering fluid. I just finished installing it all on my truck last night. Everything fit fine except for some reason the hole in the push rod was just a hair too small and it wouldn't allow enough travel to push the brake light switch in enough to break the shift interlock circuit. The brake lights worked, but I couldn't get it out of park. I had to drill it out just a little to make it work. Other than that, it stops great now.
 

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Josh where did you order yours from and would you mind posting some pics of yours when you get a chance? Very interested in making this change for my truck.
 

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will just the lml hydro unit alone increase braking enough to bother if my stock LMM unit is working? My brakes are disappointing and I'm thinking about upgrading a little at a time.
 

JoshH

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Josh where did you order yours from and would you mind posting some pics of yours when you get a chance? Very interested in making this change for my truck.

I got mine from Amazon, and it looks identical to the one I took out. I'm really not sure how much better it is than a stock booster because mine was having issues, but I can actually lock up the brakes really easy now. I've never jumped on the brake pedal before and had the back end of the truck skate around on me before, but to be fair, it isn't something I test often either. It does seem to be a little more responsive (less effort for the same amount of braking), but I'll keep this thread updated as I drive it more.
 

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Are dodge brakes really an upgrade..... Don't know how the new dodge trucks are, but our 2004 SUCKS. Put a load behind it and watch the pedal fade to the floor.
 

PhilsLB7

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I got mine from Amazon, and it looks identical to the one I took out. I'm really not sure how much better it is than a stock booster because mine was having issues, but I can actually lock up the brakes really easy now. I've never jumped on the brake pedal before and had the back end of the truck skate around on me before, but to be fair, it isn't something I test often either. It does seem to be a little more responsive (less effort for the same amount of braking), but I'll keep this thread updated as I drive it more.

Thanks Josh. The booster on my 02 definitely has some leaking seals so I need to get one. The price on the 2011 booster on Amazon is great. Definitely keep us posted.
 

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TheBac

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Are dodge brakes really an upgrade..... Don't know how the new dodge trucks are, but our 2004 SUCKS. Put a load behind it and watch the pedal fade to the floor.

Look, not to be a jerk, but what are all you guy's maintenance schedule/procedure like? There is not one thing wrong with our truck's brake design, rather the problem lies in maintaining the system to its potential.

Have you changed the PS fluid and the brake fluid? When was the last time you had the calipers off and checked the fit/slide of the pads? What condition are the metal brake lines? The rubber brake lines dont last forever, so how old are they?

I had no issue whatsoever stopping from 110 mph at the track or towing our TT with good pads and stock rotors, but then the system was at its best.
I havent touched my brakes in at least 2 years, and I now can tell a definite difference in braking. Not unsafe by any means, but there is a softer pedal and slight fading. Ive got new rubber lines on order, and the plan is to do a full 4 wheel brake job in Sept.
 

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Look, not to be a jerk, but what are all you guy's maintenance schedule/procedure like? There is not one thing wrong with our truck's brake design, rather the problem lies in maintaining the system to its potential.

Have you changed the PS fluid and the brake fluid? When was the last time you had the calipers off and checked the fit/slide of the pads? What condition are the metal brake lines? The rubber brake lines dont last forever, so how old are they?

I had no issue whatsoever stopping from 110 mph at the track or towing our TT with good pads and stock rotors, but then the system was at its best.
I havent touched my brakes in at least 2 years, and I now can tell a definite difference in braking. Not unsafe by any means, but there is a softer pedal and slight fading. Ive got new rubber lines on order, and the plan is to do a full 4 wheel brake job in Sept.
The way I read it, it sounds like the 2004 is a dodge with terrible brakes not a GM.
 

TheBac

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I just used Wolfy's post for the "header". Dodge brakes can be good, too...if maintained.
 

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Fair enough, I've got to go through the braking system as well to get a firmer pedal back. Have you thought about using braided stainless lines instead of rubber?
 

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Fair enough, I've got to go through the braking system as well to get a firmer pedal back. Have you thought about using braided stainless lines instead of rubber?

Stainless lines do help. But flushing the brake and p/s fluid on an improperly maintained system makes a HUGE difference.
 

TheBac

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I didnt include the braided lines simply b/c most DDers wouldn't use them (which is what this board has unfortunately turned into).
In a performance situation, then yes. I am using them on the 1/2 ton.

BTW, I have had to reseal my hydroboost and change out the PS lines in the past. They dont last forever, either.
 

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I didnt include the braided lines simply b/c most DDers wouldn't use them (which is what this board has unfortunately turned into).
In a performance situation, then yes. I am using them on the 1/2 ton.

BTW, I have had to reseal my hydroboost and change out the PS lines in the past. They dont last forever, either.
I've got ss lines they're nice and it makes a little improvement. I also have a properly maintained brake system. Brake fluid once a year, ps twice a year. Rotate tires 3 times a year and I take apart each corner every time.

I can lockup 35s with ease

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OregonDMAX

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I've got ss lines they're nice and it makes a little improvement. I also have a properly maintained brake system. Brake fluid once a year, ps twice a year. Rotate tires 3 times a year and I take apart each corner every time.

I can lockup 35s with ease

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Now that's where everyone should be at before trying to reinvent the wheel, or in this case stop the wheel :D

I flush my fluids and also changed out the lines to SS, my front pads are the originals with 150k on them and they still have 60% life left and the truck stops as good as the day I bought it. I had to change the rears due to a squeaking I couldn't get rid of. I've also had all thr rotors machined 2 times.
 

WolfLMM

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Look, not to be a jerk, but what are all you guy's maintenance schedule/procedure like? There is not one thing wrong with our truck's brake design, rather the problem lies in maintaining the system to its potential.

Have you changed the PS fluid and the brake fluid? When was the last time you had the calipers off and checked the fit/slide of the pads? What condition are the metal brake lines? The rubber brake lines dont last forever, so how old are they?

I had no issue whatsoever stopping from 110 mph at the track or towing our TT with good pads and stock rotors, but then the system was at its best.
I havent touched my brakes in at least 2 years, and I now can tell a definite difference in braking. Not unsafe by any means, but there is a softer pedal and slight fading. Ive got new rubber lines on order, and the plan is to do a full 4 wheel brake job in Sept.

TheBac:rolleyes:, the Dodge 3500 has new brakes on it. It's on of our company vehicles, DOT registered and hauls heavy (scrap aluminum slugs) every week. It gets inspected quite regularly by the State Police, as they love to setup check points on the highway to foundry... It's never stopped as well as our Chevy 3500, never pulled as well either. It's inferior in all aspects as far as I'm concerned. We have WAY too much liability involved to be looking over basic maintenance items. Thanks for the concern.
 

malibu795

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I've got ss lines they're nice and it makes a little improvement. I also have a properly maintained brake system. Brake fluid once a year, ps twice a year. Rotate tires 3 times a year and I take apart each corner every time.

I can lockup 35s with ease

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Love to put SS braided lines on mine. GM went to metric fittings on the LMM

What are you using for PS fluid? I'm using synthetic ATF. Really need to get a cooler on it....

Might be swapping hydra boost out later as well.. As its pushing 270k doesn't seam to be stopping as well as it use to..
Rotors and pads are relatively new