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Blackmax123

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malibu795 said:
DDP ran 19:1 in a 2.5 class...
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When I read this stuff it makes me wish I'd have went around 17:1. For my build. But at the time I was trying to leave room to grow.

With my built motor same fuel setup and same Danville stock appearing 2.5 vgt. I lost 30 rwhp on marks dyno but gained 20 ft lbs of torque. Needless to say switching to the s400 based 2.5 charger I'm currently running I didn't gain very much. Some of me wants to blame it on my compression ratio.
 
Frankin_truck

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Blackmax123 said:
When I read this stuff it makes me wish I'd have went around 17:1. For my build. But at the time I was trying to leave room to grow.

With my built motor same fuel setup and same Danville stock appearing 2.5 vgt. I lost 30 rwhp on marks dyno but gained 20 ft lbs of torque. Needless to say switching to the s400 based 2.5 charger I'm currently running I didn't gain very much. Some of me wants to blame it on my compression ratio.
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Did your use the same cam?
 
malibu795

malibu795

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I've ran stock 16.8 17 and currently 17.5 which is OEM for lb7/LLY.

There's days I wish I went 18-19:1 but it's really up in the air if stock rods would hold at 4-500hp.
 
Frankin_truck

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Why do all the cummins guys want to run such low compression? I have heard of guys running 12:1 in cummins land
 
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Frankin_truck said:
Why do all the cummins guys want to run such low compression? I have heard of guys running 12:1 in cummins land
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Because they have bigger slugs. More compression in a Cummins is way more force on the pistons than a smaller slug Duramax. A high compression Cummins will make a helluva lot more bang when it blows up. ;)
 
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I could be looking at this the wrong way but cylinder pressure= power? To much can be hard on parts. I think the dynamic compression ratio would be lower at 12:1 if they were running same size turbo bringing down cylinder pressure. Must be some advantages to running low static compression ratio there are a few strong running cummins.
 
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Lower compression= room for more air and a larger combustion event= more power. Higher compression is more pressure in cylinder equals better off boost response???? Or what?
 
WVRigrat05

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My LLY ran like a whole new animal going from 17.5 to 16 and change, I did change injectors at the time of the build but I don't think injectors alone would have made that big a difference.
 
IOWA LLY

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WVRigrat05 said:
My LLY ran like a whole new animal going from 17.5 to 16 and change, I did change injectors at the time of the build but I don't think injectors alone would have made that big a difference.
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I'll bet they did.


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Frankin_truck

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I bet the injectors made the difference especially if you ran the same tune. Can't see how you would gain hp by dropping compression in that set up
 
catman3126

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Harbin_22 said:
I run 16.5:1 with around 85-90#'s boost from the triples. Blew headgaskets with standard H11 studs. Went to 625's and Oring heads, no problems for the last 10k miles
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Great just what I wanted to read. same comp, same boost levels, didn't do the 625's fml.
 
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