Cant take it anymore!

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Holy shit its unreal how much BS goes on elsewhere and how dumb people are. Im sure this thread wont last but Im tired of all of it and need to vent. Im sick of how some get away with everything and noone is heard. Please keep this up as people need to know this crap.

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It's very obvious that you are backing a (paid) "supporting vendor. Most of us on here do not think that adds credibility to the product. In fact, it just adds to the "snake oil" aura of it. People are asking for test results and proof that the claims are valid. The vendor doesn't offer any, hence the reluctance of members to "swallow the line".

Interesting that you're apparently a psychic... knowing what I'm up to without knowing me or knowing my motives. Backing? Hardly. Using the product and reporting my results? Yes. Acting to keep a bunch of highly opinionated blow-hards from piling on with no personal knowledge of the product? Absolutely. Strongly recommending that those same naysayers go to the source of information? Yep.

I couldn't care less if you "swallow the line". Anyone attacks or piles onto any other supporting vendor like they have this one and I would be equally accused of backing or protecting that supporting vendor. And yeah... that's precisely what the staff does.

The second quote is the one Im ripping apart. First off hes ALWAYS a smartass to the members and condescending. Not a good trait to have when your in a leader position. Second he has NOT posted any hard data other than he likes it and its quieter and seems has more power. Thirdly how the hell are we supposed to have knowledge of the product? Thats the VENDORS/MANUFACTURER responsibility to do so. And besides that everyone has ASKED numerous times for data to no avail. Once again he is acting a fool against the members. Fourth why would anyone goto the manufacturer? Why cant the vendor who is SELLING the product answer these damn questions IN A TIMELY MANNER. Again not the members responsibility. They can get other proven products elsewhere. So if you want to sell it then you need to meet your potential customers requests within reason. Thats within reason I think.

And the best one..... "Interesting that you're apparently a psychic... knowing what I'm up to without knowing me or knowing my motives. Backing? Hardly". Now maybe I am psychic because this line seems to be a complete lie. Now one would just think you are backing him because he blows this guy everywhere he goes. Its unreal. I personally caught this vendor in a huge lie about HIDs where he was selling genuine Hellas but in fact was a knock off and I get banned over it among other things about him I thought were shady. I wont go there though. AND this Admin has followed him all around and cradled every move. Even though he cant produce a single piece of evidence that the product works. Again hes a scammer. I can tell you stories about him and ebay too.

AND finally if you dont think the two are connected then check out the vendors website...... Scroll to the bottom and what is the last link there? It has "Logo" in it. Now who you think owns THAT website and business? Hmmmmm :confused:
 

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I know but its just ridiculous how much BS goes on. Get this shit. That ass munch Twisted Logic (MD vendor) had told Randy couple weeks ago that I called him and left a message on his vmail threatening him but the person was referring to me being banned. Now how the hell am I going to call him and refer to myself in 3rd person? And WHY would I after 3 months of being banned? I dont give a shit about any of them. I sure as hell would have talked to him and not left a message if it was me. Anyone that knows me would tell you that. But this just goes back to him making up lies and Randy supporting everything he says. Bunch of candy asses. Get a life.
 

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I know but its just ridiculous how much BS goes on. Get this shit. That ass munch Twisted Logic (MD vendor) had told Randy couple weeks ago that I called him and left a message on his vmail threatening him but the person was referring to me being banned. Now how the hell am I going to call him and refer to myself in 3rd person? And WHY would I after 3 months of being banned? I dont give a shit about any of them. I sure as hell would have talked to him and not left a message if it was me. Anyone that knows me would tell you that. But this just goes back to him making up lies and Randy supporting everything he says. Bunch of candy asses. Get a life.
Yeah, ok... :rofl:
 

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I dont care about them personally. I do care about them making false accusations. I sure as hell dont care enough to call them. ;)

I do care about how I was let go though. Its a principle kind of thing with me. But thats not the issue here. The issue is how they are disrespecting the masses and nothing gets said about it.
 

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Couple of things here:

1. The guys are going to back forum supported vendors because they pay them to do so and its good business. So Randy is going to bat for the vendor so that he a) keeps his job and b) keeps good relations for AF and the rest of the "team."

2. Are you really that suprised that Randy responded like that? If someone was sponsoring me I would make dang sure that their interests are met and exceeded, not bad mouth them even if I didn't like them.


Twisted Logic should not have called Randy and told him that you left him a threatening VM. I don't think you personally would have done that and I sure would be pissed about that. He (TwistedLogic) I think has had some bad transactions so i don't know how much credibility there is there.
 

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I agree in supporting the vendors. I always tried to first when I was buying stuff but I also didnt have a diesel so some things were harder to get. BUT I WOULD NOT support vendors that were shady or sold BS. I dont agree with the whole "They support this site so we protect them" kind of attitude ( and I can tell you PLENTY of vendors who got away with everything cause they paid more than most to be there...Im sure you know who). If you sell junk then IMO you sell it to someone else. I hate shit products. If helps NOONE except the forum owners. I dont see any of that here....wonder why? Cause Pat, Kat, and the vast majority here know the difference on whats a good product and they would not be associated with bad ones. Thats why all the performance minded and serious racers are here (except me....one day though Ill have a 300HP truck :D )

I dont know man it just rubs me the wrong way when its ALWAYS about the money. To me it should be about the members AND a good product. Life is not always about money. Cant buy self pride and peace of mind.

Mike - Your right that guy does know what hes talking about among a few others.

Does noone else think its wrong to have an admin whos a vendor and not the owner of the site? AND for the admin to advertise on another vendors website? To me that is conflict of interest if your doing your job correctly and being unbiased.

Looks like Obama and him setting up all his ducks in a row for a dictatorship.
 

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I agree in supporting the vendors. I always tried to first when I was buying stuff but I also didnt have a diesel so some things were harder to get. BUT I WOULD NOT support vendors that were shady or sold BS. I dont agree with the whole "They support this site so we protect them" kind of attitude ( and I can tell you PLENTY of vendors who got away with everything cause they paid more than most to be there...Im sure you know who). If you sell junk then IMO you sell it to someone else. I hate shit products. If helps NOONE except the forum owners. I dont see any of that here....wonder why? Cause Pat, Kat, and the vast majority here know the difference on whats a good product and they would not be associated with bad ones. Thats why all the performance minded and serious racers are here (except me....one day though Ill have a 300HP truck :D )

I dont know man it just rubs me the wrong way when its ALWAYS about the money. To me it should be about the members AND a good product. Life is not always about money. Cant buy self pride and peace of mind.

Mike - Your right that guy does know what hes talking about among a few others.

Does noone else think its wrong to have an admin whos a vendor and not the owner of the site? AND for the admin to advertise on another vendors website? To me that is conflict of interest if your doing your job correctly and being unbiased.

Looks like Obama and him setting up all his ducks in a row for a dictatorship.

Randy's in it for himself, what do you expect? I'm surprised more people dont realize it by now.
 

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Its the DP , what do you expect ? That is why most come here , I dont go over there much because of the endless amount of BS and lame posts .
 
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I cant stand some of the jackasses that sell Amsoil.

It is good oil and if it is competitevely priced it is probably worth but it is no genie in a bottle.

I remember one of the guys said you should buy Torque Drive over Transynd even though it costs more (at least at the time it did) and it does not have a TES295 rating. The rating is not a big deal but they must think your stupid to buy a clone of Transynd without the rating and pay more for it because it says Amsoil.

Dirtbagdad was one of them I cant remember the other guy maybe Heath?
 

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exactly! i fought so hard against dane and all his bs to get nowhere...only cause hes a vendor. kinda like banks and all their protection they got. dont see them around anymore though.