Holy shit its unreal how much BS goes on elsewhere and how dumb people are. Im sure this thread wont last but Im tired of all of it and need to vent. Im sick of how some get away with everything and noone is heard. Please keep this up as people need to know this crap.
Heres a quote:
The second quote is the one Im ripping apart. First off hes ALWAYS a smartass to the members and condescending. Not a good trait to have when your in a leader position. Second he has NOT posted any hard data other than he likes it and its quieter and seems has more power. Thirdly how the hell are we supposed to have knowledge of the product? Thats the VENDORS/MANUFACTURER responsibility to do so. And besides that everyone has ASKED numerous times for data to no avail. Once again he is acting a fool against the members. Fourth why would anyone goto the manufacturer? Why cant the vendor who is SELLING the product answer these damn questions IN A TIMELY MANNER. Again not the members responsibility. They can get other proven products elsewhere. So if you want to sell it then you need to meet your potential customers requests within reason. Thats within reason I think.
And the best one..... "Interesting that you're apparently a psychic... knowing what I'm up to without knowing me or knowing my motives. Backing? Hardly". Now maybe I am psychic because this line seems to be a complete lie. Now one would just think you are backing him because he blows this guy everywhere he goes. Its unreal. I personally caught this vendor in a huge lie about HIDs where he was selling genuine Hellas but in fact was a knock off and I get banned over it among other things about him I thought were shady. I wont go there though. AND this Admin has followed him all around and cradled every move. Even though he cant produce a single piece of evidence that the product works. Again hes a scammer. I can tell you stories about him and ebay too.
AND finally if you dont think the two are connected then check out the vendors website...... Scroll to the bottom and what is the last link there? It has "Logo" in it. Now who you think owns THAT website and business? Hmmmmm
Heres a quote:
It's very obvious that you are backing a (paid) "supporting vendor. Most of us on here do not think that adds credibility to the product. In fact, it just adds to the "snake oil" aura of it. People are asking for test results and proof that the claims are valid. The vendor doesn't offer any, hence the reluctance of members to "swallow the line".
Interesting that you're apparently a psychic... knowing what I'm up to without knowing me or knowing my motives. Backing? Hardly. Using the product and reporting my results? Yes. Acting to keep a bunch of highly opinionated blow-hards from piling on with no personal knowledge of the product? Absolutely. Strongly recommending that those same naysayers go to the source of information? Yep.
I couldn't care less if you "swallow the line". Anyone attacks or piles onto any other supporting vendor like they have this one and I would be equally accused of backing or protecting that supporting vendor. And yeah... that's precisely what the staff does.
The second quote is the one Im ripping apart. First off hes ALWAYS a smartass to the members and condescending. Not a good trait to have when your in a leader position. Second he has NOT posted any hard data other than he likes it and its quieter and seems has more power. Thirdly how the hell are we supposed to have knowledge of the product? Thats the VENDORS/MANUFACTURER responsibility to do so. And besides that everyone has ASKED numerous times for data to no avail. Once again he is acting a fool against the members. Fourth why would anyone goto the manufacturer? Why cant the vendor who is SELLING the product answer these damn questions IN A TIMELY MANNER. Again not the members responsibility. They can get other proven products elsewhere. So if you want to sell it then you need to meet your potential customers requests within reason. Thats within reason I think.
And the best one..... "Interesting that you're apparently a psychic... knowing what I'm up to without knowing me or knowing my motives. Backing? Hardly". Now maybe I am psychic because this line seems to be a complete lie. Now one would just think you are backing him because he blows this guy everywhere he goes. Its unreal. I personally caught this vendor in a huge lie about HIDs where he was selling genuine Hellas but in fact was a knock off and I get banned over it among other things about him I thought were shady. I wont go there though. AND this Admin has followed him all around and cradled every move. Even though he cant produce a single piece of evidence that the product works. Again hes a scammer. I can tell you stories about him and ebay too.
AND finally if you dont think the two are connected then check out the vendors website...... Scroll to the bottom and what is the last link there? It has "Logo" in it. Now who you think owns THAT website and business? Hmmmmm