LBZ: Built LBZ daily driver issues

Awenta

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Your right foot probably has some to do with it. It's different driving a big single vs a vgt.


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Ne-max

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Everyones definition of drivability is going to be different. Also what good street manners are.
I ran a s476 with 150s. Was a Smokey mess with a 1058. Switched to a 1053 and it was way way better. But still not as clean as I wanted. Granite 6 speed manual mode helped a lot along with good trans tuning.

If power is not a huge concern switch to a s468 or s369 in my opinion. I have yet had a vvt truck that impressed me in person. Seems like tuning is always off.
 

diesel53

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Everyones definition of drivability is going to be different. Also what good street manners are.
I ran a s476 with 150s. Was a Smokey mess with a 1058. Switched to a 1053 and it was way way better. But still not as clean as I wanted. Granite 6 speed manual mode helped a lot along with good trans tuning.

If power is not a huge concern switch to a s468 or s369 in my opinion. I have yet had a vvt truck that impressed me in person. Seems like tuning is always off.

Exactly.. I'm talking drivability not wide open. The truck runs amazing and cleans up at wide open throttle but not driving around town.

I'm going to run a s463. I've heard a lot of good things. And even cleaner tuning won't change how laggy that charger is.

Thanks for the input
 

carter_44

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Apparently my idea of good drivability is very different from others. I run a 68 stage 2r with 60s and dual pumps and spool is very similar to stock. I'm also at 7000 ft elevation and your elevation will play a HUGE role. A single 75 will not spool up here no matter how much fuel or what tuning you have. Hell, I wouldn't even daily a single 75 at sea level with the best of circumstances. I want to be in the charger, like now. A setup that doesn't spool until tomorrow takes all the fun out of a hot rod.
 

carter_44

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Exactly.. I'm talking drivability not wide open. The truck runs amazing and cleans up at wide open throttle but not driving around town.

I'm going to run a s463. I've heard a lot of good things. And even cleaner tuning won't change how laggy that charger is.

Thanks for the input ����
I think you'll be very happy with that 463 when Steve dials it in.

PS...don't lift it
 

DMAXchris

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Apparently my idea of good drivability is very different from others. I run a 68 stage 2r with 60s and dual pumps and spool is very similar to stock. I'm also at 7000 ft elevation and your elevation will play a HUGE role. A single 75 will not spool up here no matter how much fuel or what tuning you have. Hell, I wouldn't even daily a single 75 at sea level with the best of circumstances. I want to be in the charger, like now. A setup that doesn't spool until tomorrow takes all the fun out of a hot rod.

And then you have people like me who hate how these trucks drive with a vvt. I can't stand that feeling of it always wanting to go. I love being able drive normal with 0 psi of boost and then waiting for a second or two for the charger to light up. Been DDing a 475/87 for 5 years and wouldn't consider ever running a vvt again. To each his own!
 

kiwilml

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And then you have people like me who hate how these trucks drive with a vvt. I can't stand that feeling of it always wanting to go. I love being able drive normal with 0 psi of boost and then waiting for a second or two for the charger to light up. Been DDing a 475/87 for 5 years and wouldn't consider ever running a vvt again. To each his own!
I know what you mean here, I had a 468 on my lml and I liked it and then put a 463 in place of it and liked it even more.. Was a very good daily driver but I was still on stock injectors..

I think the 63 was about maxed out so if I would've got bigger injectors I would have swapped the 68 back in and been super happy with it.. It definitely took a different driving habit to keep it from hazing some when taking out of course but it was all worth it..
 

minerigger

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Apparently my idea of good drivability is very different from others. I run a 68 stage 2r with 60s and dual pumps and spool is very similar to stock. I'm also at 7000 ft elevation and your elevation will play a HUGE role. A single 75 will not spool up here no matter how much fuel or what tuning you have. Hell, I wouldn't even daily a single 75 at sea level with the best of circumstances. I want to be in the charger, like now. A setup that doesn't spool until tomorrow takes all the fun out of a hot rod.
I agree on elevation. I'm at 5300ft and I run a stg2r with stock injectors and mark does the tuning and unless I flat foot it off a stop I have absolutely zero smoke. I had a 366/74 .91 borg and hated it up here for DDing, wide up was fun as hell though

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kiwilml

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Kiwi, what were you putting down with that 463 on stock injectors? Were you running a stroker pump?
Yes I had a 10mm cp3 conversion.. And I don't know how much exactly, never dynoed or raced it.. I was thinking around 600.. I told my tuner I wanted a pretty hot tune for it so might have been over that even.. It felt really strong, for me anyway lol.. I could get in 2 gear lock up and shower down on it and when it hit 3rd it'd break em loose and hit 4th right away.. That was with 305 mud tires too..