Biodiesel processor pics
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lol go figure. i just got to thinkin about it today after reading this thread. I take it you and your dad got rid of it already?
Yea it was just too much of a mess and we didn't really have the space once we got rid of the shop. I do know pretty much everything there is to know about that stuff if you have any questions though. If you're really interested I think I could help you put a good system together.
To anyone else doing it take your time and wash the crap out of it! The first time you make a mistake and get even a little bit of glycerol in your fuel system you've pretty much just undone any money you've saved!
To anyone else doing it take your time and wash the crap out of it! The first time you make a mistake and get even a little bit of glycerol in your fuel system you've pretty much just undone any money you've saved!
Have about 80K on bio now, up to 200K this month. We make about 200 gal a week, use the glycerin for soap, tiki fuel and dust control on some gravel driveways. Only run b80, probably had her up higher but try to keep it about there. No noticable loss of mpg but I drive mostly around town and dont know about power, do not have a tune or gauges yet.
Well I just checked my balance rates too. I've racked up around 20k miles since I did my engine/injectors in November. At least 5 thousand miles have been full B-100 biodiesel, another 4 thousand or so have been at last B-75 or more, and here lately I've been running about B-50 or so. I alternate between a full tank of bio and a full tank of diesel. I haven't slimmed down on it because it hurt the truck or anything power/milage wise. I've just run my oil supply down. Before I started the bio my balance rates were in the +/- 1.5 range. Now after 10k miles of a healthy diet of biodiesel my rates have all dropped to +/- 0.5, with some even hovering very close to 0.0. Bottom line is, if you got the time and will power to learn how to make the bio, a place to hide the system and smell there's no downside to burning it provided the fuel you're making is good quality. :thumb:
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Well I've run about 800 miles and about 30 gallons of biodiesel, I'm sure I am running on 100% biodiesel by now. I just changed the filters on my truck cause it was feeling more sluggish. With new filters it runs like a top. My main complaints are a loss of throttle response and a bit more power loss now that it's 100% bio. If I had to guess I'd say I lost around 50 hp or so. This is just an estimate, I have no proof. My tunes are just each just down a notch. I have tow, Econ, hot Econ, hot street, and race(around 500rwhp). Now my tow feels more like stock, Econ like tow, hot Econ like mild Econ, hot street like hot Econ, and race like hot street. But again, when saving the amount of money I am I could care less
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I'm curious what tuner you are running in your truck ?
I just started running a LBZ motor on 100% bio and I am getting a EFI Live tuner with 5 selectable tunes and I want to get a tune with the Injection timing advance for the Bio , have you played with this ?
I was running efilive with the dsp 5 switch just like you're talking about. I drove around on my hot tunes. The #4 450 and #5 500 rated ones. It was plenty peppy and got decent milage. There was a horsepower drop but it's inevitable. Wasn't bad though. Seat of the pants dyno I'd guess each tune lost 50 horsepower. So when on bio number 5 tune felt like #4 on diesel #4 felt like #3 etc. You won't get the milage out of it either. My lb7 would get close to 20mpg on dino diesel. On bio I only got around 16-17 driving the same highway route. Just the prices you part for running the stuff.
I am fairly new to doing my own tuning so I can't say what a safe number is to run for injection timing but I know to much timing is a quick way to crack lbz pistons. You tuning the truck yourself or getting the tunes from a pro?
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I am fairly new to doing my own tuning so I can't say what a safe number is to run for injection timing but I know to much timing is a quick way to crack lbz pistons. You tuning the truck yourself or getting the tunes from a pro?
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Hey thanks for getting back to me , all up the LBZ power is pretty awesome compared to my old 6.5 suburban so I'm fine with the power loss but the mileage is pretty bad I am only getting 11-12 around town and 14-15 on the freeway with bio. We just took a road trip up to Tahoe and with pump diesel I got 18-19 average cruise speed 70
For the tuning It sounds like I get 5 tunes custom made for me so I have asked for
tune 1 bio economy pump timing advanced 1 deg
Tune 2 pump diesel economy
tune 3 bio tow + 80hp pump timing advanced 1 deg
Tune 4 pump diesel tow + 80hp pump timing stock
tune 5 bio max + 110hp pump timing ?
I purchased the EFI live V 2 unit so I will have the ability to tweak tunes once I am comfortable enough to play with it
Bottom line is I don't want to crack or melt the pistons out of the motor so I am thinking of starting with 1 degree advance
And making minor changes from there
For the tuning It sounds like I get 5 tunes custom made for me so I have asked for
tune 1 bio economy pump timing advanced 1 deg
Tune 2 pump diesel economy
tune 3 bio tow + 80hp pump timing advanced 1 deg
Tune 4 pump diesel tow + 80hp pump timing stock
tune 5 bio max + 110hp pump timing ?
I purchased the EFI live V 2 unit so I will have the ability to tweak tunes once I am comfortable enough to play with it
Bottom line is I don't want to crack or melt the pistons out of the motor so I am thinking of starting with 1 degree advance
And making minor changes from there
Should Duramax owners use bio?
See article;
http://www.enginebuildermag.com/Article/101945/diesel_engines_dino_fuel_or_bio_fuel.aspx
See article;
http://www.enginebuildermag.com/Article/101945/diesel_engines_dino_fuel_or_bio_fuel.aspx
If you're getting the tunes from a pro chances are they'll be locked and you won't be able to change them. You will have to get the tuner to edit them. My advice is to call every duramax tuner out there and see which one has the most experience with tuning for biodiesel. They will be helpful for sure. Sounds like you have the right idea for the tune selections though.
As far as that article, I agree with it fully. As long as the fuel being made is ASTM D6751 certifiable it offers more lubrication and it's cleaner than pump diesel. Plus my biodiesel processor has 2 water separators and filters down to the 2 micron level where pump diesel is down to 5 micron when it's pumped into your truck. Like I said before as long as the person making the fuel knows what they're doing and the fuel passes all quality control tests it's great stuff.
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As far as that article, I agree with it fully. As long as the fuel being made is ASTM D6751 certifiable it offers more lubrication and it's cleaner than pump diesel. Plus my biodiesel processor has 2 water separators and filters down to the 2 micron level where pump diesel is down to 5 micron when it's pumped into your truck. Like I said before as long as the person making the fuel knows what they're doing and the fuel passes all quality control tests it's great stuff.
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I just wish the local fuel and oil supply place would get more methanol! They changed suppliers or something. I have been waiting for methanol since I got my 05. :screwy::thumbdown::sly:
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Interesting article on Biodiesel , I have heard lots of stories but over 10 years we have had great luck and I have personally made just over 40k gallons of bio , we have lost 1 IP in a 2002 VW Jetta and The consensus was it was the Biodiesel but over time many pump diesel cars lost the IP as well and with a viton rebuild in it it has gone another 60K trouble free. But we are in California and when I head to the snow I run my rig down to at least a quarter tank and fill up with winterized diesel and so far no cold weather issues , I have read about people having success in snow country but that is another topic....
Yeah to run that stuff in the winter would take major dedication. I don't even mess with it down here in Florida from like late November to mid February/early March
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For tunes I have found a few people offering canned tunes but nobody with Duramax / Bio experience , I went with Adrenaline truck and got a EFILive FlashScan V2 and DSP5 Switch and Tuning by 'Idaho Rob the common rail electronic modern diesel is new to me so I am following his lead on this but they also claim to have never tuned for Bio so it would be great to find someone with some experience with this , any suggestions of other tuners to talk to ? I have hit lots of brick walls on this subject
The upshot is they are willing to tweak tunes for me and they give me one that I can play with myself so I can play with timing ETC
The upshot is they are willing to tweak tunes for me and they give me one that I can play with myself so I can play with timing ETC
Bobo is great. He tuned my lb7 that I ran on biodiesel. Same with my dad's lbz which also ran on some biodiesel. He never did much more than B50 though. You will be happy with just his basic pump diesel tunes I am almost positive. Maybe try one tune with a little more timing but his high economy tunes are already pretty good
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Nice glad to hear positive tuning feedback , really I am looking for better economy so hopefully I can pick up 3-4 miles per gallon But a little more HP is always fun.......
What Bio processor are you running ?
Where are you sourcing your methanol from ? We get methanol lye and acid delivered from a chemical distributor , it was a pain in the neck to get the account set up but the prices can't be beat plus free delivery
What Bio processor are you running ?
Where are you sourcing your methanol from ? We get methanol lye and acid delivered from a chemical distributor , it was a pain in the neck to get the account set up but the prices can't be beat plus free delivery
My dad's ccsb lbz on 35" tires gets a hand calc average of 18.5mpg. With BoBo's tunes. That's 75% highway and the rest town. On straight highway he can get real close to 20mpg if he sets the cruise right after it shifts to 6th gear.
I think my processor is an all American bio fuels basic 40 gallon system. Should be pictures and all on the first page of this thread. I live in a pretty rural area and there's only one place around. They had a supply issue with methanol so I'm just waiting on them to get their hands on some for me. I get the lye off eBay believe it or not for pretty cheap.
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I think my processor is an all American bio fuels basic 40 gallon system. Should be pictures and all on the first page of this thread. I live in a pretty rural area and there's only one place around. They had a supply issue with methanol so I'm just waiting on them to get their hands on some for me. I get the lye off eBay believe it or not for pretty cheap.
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