can items that have allready been heat treated be cryoed?
Sure.
You are best off to cyro afterwards. Generally cryo in done when the part is complete. That way it can take effect after all the machining done to contuor act the stresses involved.
can items that have allready been heat treated be cryoed?
i agree, but i was just trying to keep it simple,
Wade:rofl: You make me laugh!
Why simple? Are we just a bunch of small minded people? Is your wealth of info just a over load for us?:rofl:
The best processes I've seen is Metalax. No movement of steel at all like with cryo. treatments. However removes all the stresses from the steel that work against it during it's service life. This can be done to a completed motor in the truck as well. The machine prints a graph out of how much stress is in the steel before and after the process. Pretty neat. I used this process extensively it the tool and die trade with problem components that have experienced a high failure rate (only making 2-3 million cycles during service life instead of the 10-12 million cycles I build the stack molds to endure). For the tool makers out there, most of these are Husky molds so you know what I'm talking about. Semi-retired from Tool & Die work now. www.metalax.com Check it out. By the way. I can get this done for anyone interested. My bud owns one.
Lots of great info guys. Thanks for sharing. It is all pretty much exactly how I thought, but what was being said on DP seemed to be a little different. I appreciate all your input.
BTW Johnboy, in your first post of this thread, did you mean to say "This treatment does preform miracles such as filling voids or adding utlimate strenght" about cryo treating?
Wade:rofl: You make me laugh!
Why simple? Are we just a bunch of small minded people? Is your wealth of info just a over load for us?:rofl:
The best processes I've seen is Metalax. No movement of steel at all like with cryo. treatments. However removes all the stresses from the steel that work against it during it's service life. This can be done to a completed motor in the truck as well. The machine prints a graph out of how much stress is in the steel before and after the process. Pretty neat. I used this process extensively it the tool and die trade with problem components that have experienced a high failure rate (only making 2-3 million cycles during service life instead of the 10-12 million cycles I build the stack molds to endure). For the tool makers out there, most of these are Husky molds so you know what I'm talking about. Semi-retired from Tool & Die work now. www.metalax.com Check it out. By the way. I can get this done for anyone interested. My bud owns one.
Same idea a burrying engine parts near railroad tracks for a few years.
My motor was done useing that process.....I seen the graph also and it was pretty neat
It can be done while it's in the truck too. This is how the military preps the big ships for years on the open ocean and the buckling effects they must withstand. The company/person with the machine needs the correct pieces to attach to do this though (doesn't work through rubber mounts of course). There's absolutely no movement from the parts after treatment so it cant cure a already warped/bent component. It just removes the stresses that are fighting them selves inside the parts. Durability is increased on stressed parts.
Any takers on this test? :rofl:
The word billet is over used in my opinion.
When you order something made out of "billet" that means it was not cast, forged, sintered, etc. It started out as "block" of material then machined. That's it.... period. Nothing more nothing less. That block that when speaking of aluminum, is typically plate (which is rolled), or bar (which is extruded). It implies nothing about the alloy or temper of the material. Billet = block.
A forging is a forging, cast is cast. Not "billet."
I make "billet" stuff for a living and I hate that word.
95% of the people out there will tell you anything shiny and aluminum-colored is "billet" and nothing more. Like those "billet" grilles...do they really think those were machined from a hunk of aluminum????
ben
did you send you whole assembled engine?
Does it help.....Dunno? It was part of his high priced balancing job.