Amsoil dealers

ripmf666

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I'll stick with my 30.00 buck oil change 1 2.5 gallon jug of shell and a ac filter other then shell I only run the Mobil Delvac 1300 thats 8.50 a gallon at Wally Worlds.
 

WolfLMM

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As with any pyramid scheme the motto is "Push, Push, Push" although I used to run Amsoil I see no real benefits to it. I am not comfortable running my oil for 10k+ between changes and therefore I don't see the benefit. I run Mobil 1 Synthetic because it's reasonably priced and my motor runs just fine with it. I think as with a lot of things in the diesel community people overanalyze everything and are so GD paranoid about a friend of a friend whose cousins brothers kids nephew had a truck that they didn't run Amsoil (or other said overrated product) in and it had a catastrophic failure. Guess what...there are plenty of diesels out there that have run for 100's of thousands of miles without synthetic this or Amsoil that without any premature failure. Although I'm no engineer like our friend KB if regular off the shelf oil is good enough for every other diesel motor it's good enough for mine.

Rant over

KB? Haha. I miss his threads. You know the ones where he asks for input then shoots every idea down. Only to tell us the real solution:rofl:. Haha we have a few more like him:D
 

Akdiesel

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Yeah he's a character that's for sure. I guess since my HS diploma isn't specially thermal coated I can't understand his carbon dilution phaser ion like ways
 

GeneralTJI

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I think I am going to buy amsoil.. and rebadge it as my own special concoction, which will magically lower EGT's and IAT's and will quite possibly help the soggy accelerator pedal issue :thumb: all for this for $24 / quart



Sorry..... couldn't help it ;)
 
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MMLMM

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Ugh. Mike, do you even know what a pyramid scheme is? Since you're saying being an Amsoil dealer sounds like a pyramid scheme, I'm guessing not.

The first and most important attribute is that a pyramid scheme involves only money, which the Amsoil obviously does not.

Amsoil dealerships are no more a pyramid scheme than being a PPE dealer or Diablo dealer....

Back the the regularly scheduled ranting :)

Yea I am pretty sure I know what one is and how it works... and yes pyrmid schemes do have products to back them, usually a shitty product that nobody buys, but its there to create a market.
Maybe amsoil doesnt appear to be much of one, as its called network marketing, but if you look closely it resembles one pretty good.

Its apparent some amsoil dealers dont even know the marketing tactic they are lead into.
Person X may own a motorcycle and have a requirement for motorcycle engine oil. This person X goes on to become a distributor and while using the engine oil for the motorcycle, also recognizes that most people in the community have cars and other vehicles, for which they have a constant requirement for various types of motor oil. All people X needs to do is approach these people and let them know that the product they require, would be stocked by him/her. In this manner, person X would e able to develop a sales network.

However, there’s more to the network marketing system than this. Person X would also have the opportunity to recommend and introduce another person (lets call this person Y) to become a distributor. X may introduce as many people that are willing to become distributors. When Y invests in the starter kit, person X would avail of an introducer’s fee. Such a fee would also be made available to the person who introduced X as a distributor as well, and so on up the chain of introducers – up to a certain limit. The more people X introduces, the more fees person X would make. Other than this fee of introduction, person also receives a small percentage of compensation for any product that Y sells. This is called residual income and is the key to network marketing.
tell me why that doesn't look like a pyramid scheme? Or is it just a 'one of a kind' business model that Amsoil created along with their hundreds of articles to sell this to their dealers.

Another thing, EVERYTIME a dealer talks to me about product, he mentions he can "Sign me up" as a dealer to save more. Do you know why that is? brainwashbrainwashbrainwashbrainwashbrainwash
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Cougar281

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Yea I am pretty sure I know what one is and how it works... and yes pyrmid schemes do have products to back them, usually a shitty product that nobody buys, but its there to create a market.
Maybe amsoil doesnt appear to be much of one, as its called network marketing, but if you look closely it resembles one pretty good.

Its apparent some amsoil dealers dont even know the marketing tactic they are lead into.

tell me why that doesn't look like a pyramid scheme? Or is it just a 'one of a kind' business model that Amsoil created along with their hundreds of articles to sell this to their dealers.

Another thing, EVERYTIME a dealer talks to me about product, he mentions he can "Sign me up" as a dealer to save more. Do you know why that is? brainwashbrainwashbrainwashbrainwashbrainwash
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Well, since we're now on the subject of pyramid schemes.... I really can't comment too much on Amsoil, but I can comment on Amway and the biggest pyramid scheme of all.... Amway is definately NOT a pyramid ANYTHING. One of the defining characteristics of a pyramid scheme is that all the money goes "up" and no one can make more than the person above them. First off, when someone signs up, the IBO fee does NOT go to the referring IBO. You will NEVER see ANY money from signing people up. Second, how much you make depends on how much work you do, and yes, in part how much product you sell (Mike, you're saying that "pyramids" usually have a shitty product to create a market... You obviusly don't know shit and are just re-iterating ignorance passed to you. Amway has quite a few very good products, besides the fact it's NOT a pyramid), NOT where you are in the "tree'. The thing there is if I sign up, and don't do much, but I do sign someone up that is ambitious, works hard, and really goes to town with it, yes, I'd make some money off his sales, but it would be something on the order of $100's to his $1,000's (10% kinda rings a bell). I'm "Above" him and didn't do much and he's "below" me and worked hard.... REAL Sesame Street question for ya: Which one's bigger? My $300 or his $3,000 (Remember, I'm "Above" him)? Kinda throws the pyramid thing out on it's ear :rolleyes:. I've met a lot of people that are part of Amway. A FEW that are making a TON of money that have been doing it for like 30 years, but a LOT that are making decent money. By decent, I mean $1,500 - $3,000 per month. Is that a ton? No. Is it enough to quit your job? No. But I sure as hell wouldn't be complaining about an extra $1,500-$3,000 per month.

One other bit for you to chew on about Pyramid schemes.... They're ILLEGAL! I don't know how long Amsoil's been in business, but Amway's been around for something like 40 years. I'm not going to go deep in it, but Amway got a bad name due to problems with how it worked years ago, most or all of whih don't exist now). Don't ya think that if Amway or Amsoil where pyramid schemes (Again, they're ILLEGAL), don't you think they would have been shut down and their "masterminds" put in prison a LONG time ago? C'mon people. Stop and think for a second and get some facts before you continue spewing ignorant crap that you heard from your sisters boyfriends cousins aunts husbands brothers nephews 3rd cousin removed. :rolleyes:

Oh, By the way, are you ready for the biggest pyramid scheme of all? Any corporation in the world! But it can't be, you say..... Think about it.... say I work for some company.... I'm make x per hour. I have a supervisor that makes more than me. He/she has a supervisor that makes more than him/her and so it goes all the way up to the executives all the way at the top. There is no way I'm going to make more than ANYONE that's above me in the chain. The only way for me to make what they do or more is to become them or their "superior", at which point there are others below me that will not be able to make more than me until they become me. And so it goes.... No one in the corporate pyramid will ever make more than the people above them, and once they do, they ARE those people with others below them makeing less.... And the cycle continues.
 
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mudygmc

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"High Price" is a negative... Keep drinking the Koolaid. It seems to be working for you...

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Huh, I pay less than 30 a gallon for amsoil intercepter their ves 2cycle oil for my snowmobile. I go to the dealer and buy the polaris 2cycle ves oil for 39 a gallon. To me that looks like amsoil is cheaper. Sure a few of their products are more expensive but being a dealer and using several of their products at a discounted rate. I come out ahead. Again each is their own.

Mike I understand there are way pushy dealers. I have seen them too. There are always a few bad apples in every basket. I am mainly a dealer for the discount. I sell just to friends at cost. I would never try and make money at it. I guess some do and get greedy and pushy. Don't lump all of us in with the a$$holes.
 

Mike L.

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Huh, I pay less than 30 a gallon for amsoil intercepter their ves 2cycle oil for my snowmobile. I go to the dealer and buy the polaris 2cycle ves oil for 39 a gallon. To me that looks like amsoil is cheaper. Sure a few of their products are more expensive but being a dealer and using several of their products at a discounted rate. I come out ahead. Again each is their own.

Mike I understand there are way pushy dealers. I have seen them too. There are always a few bad apples in every basket. I am mainly a dealer for the discount. I sell just to friends at cost. I would never try and make money at it. I guess some do and get greedy and pushy. Don't lump all of us in with the a$$holes.

I am not lumping all amsoil dealers together. Sorry if you misunderstood what I was trying to say. It's the ones that line up one after another on the forums and start pushing.
Heck 7 years ago I became an amsoil dealer, paid the 60 bucks and never sold a thing because everyone that came into my shop was also an amsoil dealer.:eek::D So after a year i gave it up.
 

JoshH

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Is this the pyramid we're talking about?

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496 BB

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Id rather listen to Amsoil tards than Monster Diesel dumbshits.

Mike Im guessing that Dane was offering up some more sweet tech on DP? That guy is such a wealth of knowledge :rolleyes: