Air Dog 150 or Wicked Diesels Eliminator

[T-Pole]

Wondering on which lift pump to add to the truck

Has anyone ever used a Wicked Diesels Lift Pump? Only reason I was considering the pump was that I seen one on a Dodge and he told me that he had changed to the Eliminator after he had used the Air Dog.

Only thing that worrys me about the pump is that it works off the boost that the truck is putting out so its never a constant, Does That Matter??

Any ideas??

 

[TrentNell]

check out dieselplace.com there plenty of lift pump info there :rofl:

 

[slowlmm]

Wondering on which lift pump to add to the truck

Has anyone ever used a Wicked Diesels Lift Pump? Only reason I was considering the pump was that I seen one on a Dodge and he told me that he had changed to the Eliminator after he had used the Air Dog.

Only thing that worrys me about the pump is that it works off the boost that the truck is putting out so its never a constant, Does That Matter??

Any ideas??

I think the wicked one is temporaerly discontinued right now

 

[WICKED DIESELS]

We found the problem, and fixed it. We thought we had compatability issues with Bio-Diesel, which has been mandated in some states. Turned out seal failures were due to the finish of the shaft where the seal rides. They now have a mirror finish, and testing has shown expected results.

 

[slowlmm]

We found the problem, and fixed it. We thought we had compatability issues with Bio-Diesel, which has been mandated in some states. Turned out seal failures were due to the finish of the shaft where the seal rides. They now have a mirror finish, and testing has shown expected results.

cool

 

[ripmf666]

lol Tommy lift pumps blow motors

 

[slowlmm]

lol Tommy lift pumps blow motors

they shure do lol

 

[T-Pole]

So Wicked Diesels could you explain how your pump works and how it is better than the AD 150.

And will it support enough fuel to handle 550+ rwhp on an LBZ. I seen one on a dmax and the pump was mounted in front of the rear tire on the drivers side, but something was also mounted on the frame rail...what was that???
and does your pump run a bigger line from the pump the the CP3 pump or does it tie into the factory lines on inside the frame rails???

Thanks

 

[racinmike77]

it really doesnt matter as long as you can put posative pressure on the cp3 pump they will all work.

 

[JoshH]

it really doesnt matter as long as you can put posative pressure on the cp3 pump they will all work.

That's what I've always thought too, but others seem to disagree.

 

[T-Pole]

So positive pressure to the pump is what the whole goal is. The only reason I ask is I am planning on running EFI live on this truck and I didn't know if a lift pump that rans a different pressure according to the boost of the truck would have any ill effect on the tuning process. Big EFI tune coupled with extrudehoned nozzels modded CP3 and a lift pump that isnt constant didnt know if it would help or hurt the whole amount of mayhem the fuel system will be goin thru. I plan on having a tune written just for my truck by one of this experienced guys on here, never used it and dont want to hurt it more than help it in the tuning.

I think to my knowledge that this pump is the only one that does work this way. Correct me if Im wrong the Air Dog 150 flows a constant 150 gph at idle or WOT it is all the same pressure goin to the pump. And the ones I have seen hook up on the inside of the frame rail and use the small factory lines to supply the CP3 pump, correct??

Keep all the info coming!!!

 

[slowlmm]

kenedys/ tts are boost refrenced as well

 

[WICKED DIESELS]

We use a bypass regulator, to control pressure. We also use a boost line above the regulator diaphragm, to increase fuel pressure under demand. Since we also upgrade CP3's we have seen a decent increase in volumetric effeciency from the CP3 by raising supply pressures.

We have been told that running high fuel pressures through the factory ECU can cause issues. We have many Dmaxes running close to 50 psi, through the ECU, so be your own judge there. You need positive pressure going to the CP3, the more you have, the longer CP3 will last and more fuel to the rail is the result. You don't need much pressure at idle, we like to see in the neighborhood of 7 psi, more than that and idle rail pressure will be too much.

We use a 3 micron filter on the pump, should make the engine mounted filter last a bit longer. Also that filter has a water trap incorpoated into it, it is the lowest spot in the fuel system. Ahead of the pump is the regulator, it returns unused fuel back to the tank.

Hope all this helps.

 

[Diesel power]

Air dog 150 is the shiznitz....

 

[WICKED DIESELS]

So positive pressure to the pump is what the whole goal is. The only reason I ask is I am planning on running EFI live on this truck and I didn't know if a lift pump that rans a different pressure according to the boost of the truck would have any ill effect on the tuning process. Big EFI tune coupled with extrudehoned nozzels modded CP3 and a lift pump that isnt constant didnt know if it would help or hurt the whole amount of mayhem the fuel system will be goin thru. I plan on having a tune written just for my truck by one of this experienced guys on here, never used it and dont want to hurt it more than help it in the tuning.

I think to my knowledge that this pump is the only one that does work this way. Correct me if Im wrong the Air Dog 150 flows a constant 150 gph at idle or WOT it is all the same pressure goin to the pump. And the ones I have seen hook up on the inside of the frame rail and use the small factory lines to supply the CP3 pump, correct??

Keep all the info coming!!!

Ours flows 200 gph free flow and 90 gph @ 50 psi, more than enough for 1000 rwhp. To my knowledge, we have the only standard Diesel fuel system on the market that increases fuel pressure on a 1:1 ratio with boost.

We make a fitting that uses the factory quick connect, coming from the fuel tank, simply connect the lines together. It also uses 1/2 inch fuel lines. Factory lines on the Dmax are also 1/2". Other systems lose pressure under demand (quite the concept!), we increase supply pressure under demand.

Big power applications are using a Raptor pump to feed the AD150, if that tells you about its performance.

Last but not least at 20 psi, we draw less than 5 amps of current, at 50 psi less than 10 amps. Anyone care to guess how much this increases the life of the motor.

The Airdog, is quite a bit cheaper, and will definately fuel a 550 hp LBZ, with absolutely no problem. I guess you have to decide, if all the extra bells and whistles are worth it for you.

 

[ChevyDieselLLY]

ok lets say you dont have anything to do with WD, would you buy the lift pump if you were also going to get their CP3?

 

[LBZ]

I hate to beat this topic to death but noisey lift pumps piss me off ever since I put the FASS on my '05.

How noisey is the WD compared to the AD??

 

[WICKED DIESELS]

Unobtrusive, very quiet.

 

[paint94979]

I hate to beat this topic to death but noisey lift pumps piss me off ever since I put the FASS on my '05.

How noisey is the WD compared to the AD??

you are :gay: :dale-simon:

 

[bullfrogjohnson]

I have always wondered about running a belt driven pump like the mitusa pump. I have thought about using a transfer pump off a C13(I believe thats what it is) and making a pulley, that way you have increased pressure with RPMS.