For those of you that have made the switch. I'm just looking for some feedback on it's performance vs the stock turbo. Pro's/Con's if any. Do you wish you would have done it sooner? Still thinking about twins? I'll be pulling the trigger soon. And since Trent's gone I get to do it myself.:woott:
4094 vs stock
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I like mine. Put a Danville billet wheel in it last year. It does not spool as fast as stock but it does light up pretty quick. We also put a Danville billet wheeled 4094 on my brother in laws truck.
Mine will be on its way to Danville next week to be turned into a 72mm!
Pros: easy install, uses all stock parts to hook up, price is awesome for the power you gain and can be upgraded to any twin kit that goes over a stocker.
Cons: finding a good tuner!
Mine will be on its way to Danville next week to be turned into a 72mm!
Pros: easy install, uses all stock parts to hook up, price is awesome for the power you gain and can be upgraded to any twin kit that goes over a stocker.
Cons: finding a good tuner!
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Ran mine for awhile and liked it. Mine is now a 72mm made by Gillett diesel. If you don't have max effort tuning and don't plan on it then I wouldnt upgrade the turbo. But overall its a nice unit and I would buy one again.
I have been runnin the 4094avant for almost a year and have a few things to say about it.
First is, I have stock injectors and cp3 and engine, everything else is modified, including 4.11 Yukon gears, lift, 35's, truetrac, intercooler, egr delete, dsp5 and tuning etc etc
The turbo is nothing like stock IMHO. The stock turbo when tuned had almost zero lag, immediate throttle response and instant powerband and fell off on the top end pretty bad. The 4094avant has a noticeable lag as compared to the stocker, but not bad compared to most any other aftermarket turbo out there, it's acceptable, it develops power a little higher in the rpm and builds power very solidly and doesn't really fall off at all, in a passing situation the stock turbo would light, get up and want to go and you could almost feel it fall off or plane out right away, IMHO. Also IMHO, the 4094 in the same scenario would need a half a second or so light and just build gobs and gobs of power almost til red line and be right there again each shift.
I guess you could put it this way, the stock turbo is always ready, but not to do very much almost like it gives up early, it is always ready to dance but stops before the songs over. The 4094 is just a bit lazy or slower to the dance, but will finish the song strong, it just keeps pullin. The 4094 makes the gears feel shorter, lol, cuz it gets the job done faster.
The stock turbo on tuning, I could get some pretty decent smoke goin. The 4094 cleans it up pretty good, but the 3" one piece all season y-bridge helped in that respect too. The 4094 will puff a little signal out the exhaust when your under it and lay on the throttle, and if you force the trans to stay in gear and slowly roll the throttle you can smoke out a nice stretch of road, 2 thing I could never do on the stocker. But, under full throttle and comparing optimum to optimum range, the 4094 runs cleaner. I did notice lower egt with the 4094 but I installed a BD cools it intercooler at the same time.... I bet each one did appx 100* of difference
All in all, I say it's a good turbo, and bang for the buck easy drop in, there isn't a match for it. Is it the best in its size, nope. Is the the easiest and cheapest way to more power, yup, cuz it's drop in and retains a t3 flange. If I could do it again I'd probably get a billet wheel, or possibly look a little bit harder at danville's stg2 vgt 68mm turbo. I might upgrade to the vgt72, but then again, I have been looking into getting a gtx turbo as well. I'm not a dedicated vgt guy.
Oh, something very important to note, the 4094 and a 3" downpipe make a glorious whistle, it sounds so much better than the stock turbo, and the exhaust note is much throatier, it sounds mean and nasty as compared to the stocker
Again, all this is said IMHO, and should be taken with a grain of salt,as I am not an expert on this, or any subject:joker:
First is, I have stock injectors and cp3 and engine, everything else is modified, including 4.11 Yukon gears, lift, 35's, truetrac, intercooler, egr delete, dsp5 and tuning etc etc
The turbo is nothing like stock IMHO. The stock turbo when tuned had almost zero lag, immediate throttle response and instant powerband and fell off on the top end pretty bad. The 4094avant has a noticeable lag as compared to the stocker, but not bad compared to most any other aftermarket turbo out there, it's acceptable, it develops power a little higher in the rpm and builds power very solidly and doesn't really fall off at all, in a passing situation the stock turbo would light, get up and want to go and you could almost feel it fall off or plane out right away, IMHO. Also IMHO, the 4094 in the same scenario would need a half a second or so light and just build gobs and gobs of power almost til red line and be right there again each shift.
I guess you could put it this way, the stock turbo is always ready, but not to do very much almost like it gives up early, it is always ready to dance but stops before the songs over. The 4094 is just a bit lazy or slower to the dance, but will finish the song strong, it just keeps pullin. The 4094 makes the gears feel shorter, lol, cuz it gets the job done faster.
The stock turbo on tuning, I could get some pretty decent smoke goin. The 4094 cleans it up pretty good, but the 3" one piece all season y-bridge helped in that respect too. The 4094 will puff a little signal out the exhaust when your under it and lay on the throttle, and if you force the trans to stay in gear and slowly roll the throttle you can smoke out a nice stretch of road, 2 thing I could never do on the stocker. But, under full throttle and comparing optimum to optimum range, the 4094 runs cleaner. I did notice lower egt with the 4094 but I installed a BD cools it intercooler at the same time.... I bet each one did appx 100* of difference
All in all, I say it's a good turbo, and bang for the buck easy drop in, there isn't a match for it. Is it the best in its size, nope. Is the the easiest and cheapest way to more power, yup, cuz it's drop in and retains a t3 flange. If I could do it again I'd probably get a billet wheel, or possibly look a little bit harder at danville's stg2 vgt 68mm turbo. I might upgrade to the vgt72, but then again, I have been looking into getting a gtx turbo as well. I'm not a dedicated vgt guy.
Oh, something very important to note, the 4094 and a 3" downpipe make a glorious whistle, it sounds so much better than the stock turbo, and the exhaust note is much throatier, it sounds mean and nasty as compared to the stocker
Again, all this is said IMHO, and should be taken with a grain of salt,as I am not an expert on this, or any subject:joker:
Yea big difference only right as it starts making boost tho. Has a serious howl and it sounds awesome. 4094 doesn't have the howl.
My first was the 4094, liked it, did ok towing. 6 monthes later when I blew the motor I was going to order a billet wheel from danville my buddy josh showed me theturbine, it was trashed. So I sent mine in to danville and got one that was built on the fly. Might I add some of the best customer service I have had in the diesel world. Mark showed me pics, the vanes were trash as well. I believe he uses different vanes than a stock 4094 but I cant swear by it so I would ask him. The 72 gets my vote, with the right vane tables and a little fuel its a runner. I tow a 5th wheel with it and it did well but its twinned now. I also hit around 44-46# boost on the hot tune.
I have been in a truck with a 42% cp3 and 30% over injectors stock motor with just the gt4094avnt and i was pretty impressed. Tuning by kory and she ripped. Truck put down just shy of 600rwhp on tune 4. But it seemed like a sweet setup.
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This is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks for your input. I'm leaning towards it. Especially with the billet wheel. I think that would be perfect.
What makes the Danville turbos "better"? Or is it just a personal preference thing?
X2 on woodster. It spools a little slower then stock but when it lights its hard and dnt fall off til you let out
Nice! Who did you go through for purchasing? And did you do the install yourselves?
It's machined for a bigger inlet. And you put a bigger wheel in it. I used to have the 4094 with billet wheel on my truck and it was wonderful! Absolutely screened and didn't let me down. Sold that truck and now will be sporting the 72mm that's in the truck I'm buying. Stoked to try the 72mm
Your welcome:hug:
The Danville turbo(s) are generally what people are referring to when you see someone post about a vgt72. The 72 is an amazing vgt, however after having several long discussions with Matt from Danville, i believe the vgt68 would do what I wanted, and I could've just shipped them my stock turbo.
As for what makes the Danville turbo's "better" well....Mark Broviak is a genius, and although I have not ordered any products from them yet, if you research about them, you will find that his attention to detail is top notch, and so is their customer service. Also, mark believes in his product and test's it to the limits on his own truck which he just pushed into the 10's on a single pump and a single vgt IIRC? Regardless, he daily drives his truck with the products he sells and races it too. Matt does as well, even though its not really set up to race, he runs the vgt72 100 over sticks and a modded pump and just recently performance built his engine, these guys are fun to talk to and fun to watch, they are right in the thick of it, diesel performance that is, and that says alot to the consumer. For vgt performance turbos, I don't really think there is a match to Danville, but, just to remain slightly unbiased, Fleece performance has a 71 or 71.5mm vgt that is supposed to rip pretty good too.
and you can see a vid of the cheetah turbo from fleece if you search for project streetmax. I can post a link, give me a minute...AgreeYour welcome:hug:
The Danville turbo(s) are generally what people are referring to when you see someone post about a vgt72. The 72 is an amazing vgt, however after having several long discussions with Matt from Danville, i believe the vgt68 would do what I wanted, and I could've just shipped them my stock turbo.
As for what makes the Danville turbo's "better" well....Mark Broviak is a genius, and although I have not ordered any products from them yet, if you research about them, you will find that his attention to detail is top notch, and so is their customer service. Also, mark believes in his product and test's it to the limits on his own truck which he just pushed into the 10's on a single pump and a single vgt IIRC? Regardless, he daily drives his truck with the products he sells and races it too. Matt does as well, even though its not really set up to race, he runs the vgt72 100 over sticks and a modded pump and just recently performance built his engine, these guys are fun to talk to and fun to watch, they are right in the thick of it, diesel performance that is, and that says alot to the consumer. For vgt performance turbos, I don't really think there is a match to Danville, but, just to remain slightly unbiased, Fleece performance has a 71 or 71.5mm vgt that is supposed to rip pretty good too.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w0iJXWelOfg&feature=relmfu
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wZxZvzWZnSM&desktop_uri=/watch?v=wZxZvzWZnSM
Here is a couple vids of streetmax with the fleece 68mm cheetah turbo
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wZxZvzWZnSM&desktop_uri=/watch?v=wZxZvzWZnSM
Here is a couple vids of streetmax with the fleece 68mm cheetah turbo
Your welcome:hug:
The Danville turbo(s) are generally what people are referring to when you see someone post about a vgt72. The 72 is an amazing vgt, however after having several long discussions with Matt from Danville, i believe the vgt68 would do what I wanted, and I could've just shipped them my stock turbo.
As for what makes the Danville turbo's "better" well....Mark Broviak is a genius, and although I have not ordered any products from them yet, if you research about them, you will find that his attention to detail is top notch, and so is their customer service. Also, mark believes in his product and test's it to the limits on his own truck which he just pushed into the 10's on a single pump and a single vgt IIRC? Regardless, he daily drives his truck with the products he sells and races it too. Matt does as well, even though its not really set up to race, he runs the vgt72 100 over sticks and a modded pump and just recently performance built his engine, these guys are fun to talk to and fun to watch, they are right in the thick of it, diesel performance that is, and that says alot to the consumer. For vgt performance turbos, I don't really think there is a match to Danville, but, just to remain slightly unbiased, Fleece performance has a 71 or 71.5mm vgt that is supposed to rip pretty good too.
Just to clarify for readers, mark has a 68mm turbo that is an lly turbo that's machined to 68mm. It has a smaller exhaust housing. Basically an lly turbo with a larger wheel and I believe new vanes. That is why it cost more than the 4094 is because its machined larger.
He also has his 4094 which is a different turbo from Garrett that has a larger exhaust housing and turbine. It comes from the factory with a 68mm compressor and can be machined to 72mm which is the turbo that he is mostly known for.