2020 Silverado 1500 Ecodiesel anybody going to buy one?

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My dad was looking at that too. He was going to pick one up but not enough tow rating to justify it.

Curious if it’s a frame or rear axle rating limitation. Pretty sure ford and dodge use a larger rear end than GM or atleast have the option for larger ones over the little 8.6
I was just reading an article a little while ago about this. They said it's not the truck, but has to do with underhood heat management with the inline 6. They used an inline 6 so they could get the exhaust treatment system's as close to the engine as possible to improve mpg's, but this comes at a cost of increasing the temps under the hood. They're worried by upping the tow rating, it will deteriate all the underhood heat wraps/insulation from the added heat, snd lead to heat failures. They said most who tow with a 1500 rarely exceed 9k lbs, so hence the current tow rating.
 

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But how well will it tow what you tow :confused: or better yet, stop what you tow

I won't offer to move customers boats anymore, I'm growing tried of it, owning a expensive truck to accommodate for someone else's boat. My Parker is 8500 lbs so it's fine for that. The mileage is really impressive, it's 150% better than my 2500 and I can't remember last time I pulled anything over 9k...

Another benefit to a 1500 is the added options that we get screwed over on with a Denali 2500, like ride control and such.
 

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I won't offer to move customers boats anymore, I'm growing tried of it, owning a expensive truck to accommodate for someone else's boat. My Parker is 8500 lbs so it's fine for that. The mileage is really impressive, it's 150% better than my 2500 and I can't remember last time I pulled anything over 9k...

Another benefit to a 1500 is the added options that we get screwed over on with a Denali 2500, like ride control and such.

Sounds like a good move for you. Lots of liability involved with moving a boat as well with the ever growing number of morons behind the wheel. I agree the 1500 trucks are much more suited for the average consumer looking for a dual purpose family vehicle, being able to use it as a truck while keeping the family comfortable and happy.

But dang it, I wish I could afford your truck lol I want it so bad
 

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I'm not sold just yet on it, going to be watching closely on this one though. If it goes up for grabs il let you know brother.:D
 

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What’s the payload between the three eco’s? I’d like to see a higher payload than towing myself. Most half ton people I know rarely tow over 6500lbs but usually and more often have their trucks loaded to the tits!!
 

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What’s the payload between the three eco’s? I’d like to see a higher payload than towing myself. Most half ton people I know rarely tow over 6500lbs but usually and more often have their trucks loaded to the tits!!

This is what I get on the internet re payload:

The 2020 Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra offer an inline-six diesel engine, with a healthy 277 horsepower and 460 pound-feet of torque, and while its 2,302-pound payload rating bests the Ram 1500, these trucks can only tow 9,300 pounds.
 

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That’s not terrible but I’d be pushing the max on payload when I go camping. They need a heavy half version or camper special half ton and get rid of the 2500 IMO. No need for it seeing as they offer a CCSB 1 ton.

Still waiting for this and the 6.6 gas to become available up here.
 

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That’s not terrible but I’d be pushing the max on payload when I go camping. They need a heavy half version or camper special half ton and get rid of the 2500 IMO. No need for it seeing as they offer a CCSB 1 ton.

Still waiting for this and the 6.6 gas to become available up here.

Ya getting rid of the 2500 and going heavy half sounds good. I'm going to put a full Fabtech 6" lift on mine very soon. I will post before and after pics once done.
 

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Maybe I missed it, but what rear axle is in one of these, anyway? GM still using the 9.5" 14 bolt hybrid or something different?
 

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My 1500 has the 8.6 and I'm running 700 rwhp and 705rwt thru it and I'm not very nice to it. The diesel could never do what my blown 5.3 can dish out so I'm sure it will be fine, at least I hope...:spit:
 

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Maybe I missed it, but what rear axle is in one of these, anyway? GM still using the 9.5" 14 bolt hybrid or something different?


Pretty sure that axles long gone. It’s either the 8.6 (which they have slowly improved over the years) or you get the aam 10.5. Not sure if they even do the d70 in the vans anymore.

My 1500 has the 8.6 and I'm running 700 rwhp and 705rwt thru it and I'm not very nice to it. The diesel could never do what my blown 5.3 can dish out so I'm sure it will be fine, at least I hope...:spit:


There’s a large difference between no weight on the ass end and 9k on the ass end under daily abuse . That will eat bearings and ring/pinion’s pretty quick at your power (if the trans don’t go first). If you haven’t looked at your bearings in there, I’ll bet the carrier bearings are showing some decent heat on them already.
 

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The Canyon is rated at 7700. I have towed 6500 so far and it did it with ease. I can see the real advantage to getting the half ton would be a bit more interior and maybe more stability when towing.
 

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Pretty sure that axles long gone. It’s either the 8.6 (which they have slowly improved over the years) or you get the aam 10.5. Not sure if they even do the d70 in the vans anymore.




There’s a large difference between no weight on the ass end and 9k on the ass end under daily abuse . That will eat bearings and ring/pinion’s pretty quick at your power (if the trans don’t go first). If you haven’t looked at your bearings in there, I’ll bet the carrier bearings are showing some decent heat on them already.

I blew the stock carrier to bits, cracked it all the way across in 2 places. I put in a Detroit Truetrac and it takes all I can dish out. Lol.
 

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Maybe I missed it, but what rear axle is in one of these, anyway? GM still using the 9.5" 14 bolt hybrid or something different?

It's a 9.5" 12 bolt rear axle. And the video posted by tfl showed the axle and it looked like the small tubes with the bigger center section, but they list them with 33 spline axle shafts.

Do they still make that axle? Thought that was only an option on the early 1500HD
The 1500hd got the regular 9.5" 14 bolt axle. The hybrid axle was when GM took the 9.5" 14 bolt center section and put 10 bolt axle tubes and axle shafts in them. GM used them behind tbe 6.0l in 6 lug 1500's. It added beef to the ring & pinion, but kept the puny 10 bolt 30 spline axle & small bearings.
 
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This is what I get on the internet re payload:

The 2020 Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra offer an inline-six diesel engine, with a healthy 277 horsepower and 460 pound-feet of torque, and while its 2,302-pound payload rating bests the Ram 1500, these trucks can only tow 9,300 pounds.

So looking at the new 3.0, where did you find that tow rating? I found 1870 was max payload for any truck with the 3.0
 

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So looking at the new 3.0, where did you find that tow rating? I found 1870 was max payload for any truck with the 3.0

This is where I got that:

2020 Ram 1500 EcoDiesel review: The best full-size truck ...
https://www.cnet.com › Roadshow › Ram › Ram 1500
Rating: 5 - ‎Review by Emme Hall
Oct 21, 2019 - The 2020 Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra offer an inline-six diesel engine, with a healthy 277 horsepower and 460 pound-feet of torque, and while its 2,302-pound payload rating bests the Ram 1500, these trucks can only tow 9,300 pounds.

Don't know where they get that figure but I think it depends on the options and model you get. That is probably a 4X2 if they are correct.
I went out and looked at my 2020 Siverado 1500 Ecodiesel, which is pretty well loaded, and it is rated at 1,504 Lbs.
 
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