2016 Obama's America

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jmaz268

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I read none of this...

All I have to say is this:

I will vote, when someone represents real people....

I refuse to vote for fake people who are put on a podium to talk.....
 

Slammed2007Lbz

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I read none of this...

All I have to say is this:

I will vote, when someone represents real people....

I refuse to vote for fake people who are put on a podium to talk.....

This is a problem Jmaz. If you dont vote for someone then that just gives obama the upper hand. Lots of people like you are the same way but if you do some research you should vote! If you dont like either candidate you dont just NOT vote you vote for the party you belive in democrat or republican wheteher or not you like the actual person on the podium. Are you happy with the anti christ in office now? If you are vote for him if not vote the other way. You dont have to like anyone just vote vote vote for who you hate the least:D
 

dordtrecht5

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So what are u sayin? We shouldnt have went after bin laden after the towers? I'm not saying any such thing. We should have gone after bin Laden to begin with instead of Jr. Making a pitstop in Iraq, completing what the first dumb-Bush couldn't complete. We should just let people push us around? Not at all; however, with that said is it appropriate for us to go into nations and throw our weight around? That's a rhetorical question, with most responding with an emphatic "no.". However, what amazes me is that how come most of us don't know the truth of why Middle East and East Asian Muslims hate Americans. Is it because we are a "Chrstian Nation". I don't think so, because if that were the case, why is it that the same militant Muslims don't attack and prey upon a little tiny country in Central America that is fully Roman Catholic? I think the reason is because American oil has decided the try to take over their countries so the owners can continue getting richer and exploit the "Muslims workers" that provide their labor. I truly believe their retaliating, i.e. pushing back for the pushing they got. I understand the health care in a way but Unemployment hasnt changed. Unemployment hasn't changed? That's strange because the first month after Obama took office unemployment hit an all time high of 810,000. Did he cause this? Hell no. Our nation was on the verge of financial ruin and complete collapse. The policies he has been able to get through is what has helped begin to bring us back. Look at stocks. It's at one of the highest points it's ever been. Unemployment has gone down AGAIN. 96,000 jobs were created last month. Is it great? No, it's not, it sucks. All I'm saying here is the man is slowly turning things around, and he's tried his damnedest to work with stingy fricken republicans who can't get over themselves. Your sayin out of the current runners u would like things to stay the way they are?

I'm certainly not saying that I'm a huge Obama fan, but if you think that I desire an over-privileged trust fund baby running it think again. Maybe we should all remember American Motors, PanAm, Eastern Airlines, and Delorean and see how they would like Mitt. that's enough ranting:thumb:
 
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SmokeShow

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John, write in your fav person? You aren't limited to voting for just the names on the ballot. You can write in whomever your heart desires.

And yes, every vote means something.
 

dordtrecht5

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I honestly respect your heart felt opinion and God Bless your daughter. Your right no policy is perfect nor is the man or women that wrote it. You bring up some valid points, But for me Obama's policies especially long term and his socialist agendas raises great concern on our future.

I appreciate your kindness, especially that which is given to my daughter. I have some of the same concerns. However, for me, I'm truly sick of the filthy rich getting richer at the hands of the poor. The largest segment of our population is becoming poorer and more needy the more that corporate America has power. Back in the day it wasn't like that because the workers had the upper-hand and the was a form of respect given from Executive Boards. Since Jr.'s compassionate conservatism took effect corporations desire to keep the worker poor. Mitt will make sure exploitation flourishes, and you can see it in that cheesy, fake smile of his.
 

jacobdewey

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...... However, I can just about be for certain that most have not been faced with a circumstance of being in dire need, having to humiliate themselves to ask for help..... .

I understand your point, and also god bless your daughter, but you are the minority and not the majority, because unlike the "majority", you feel ashamed to ask for help, and In your case you actually needed it. There were systems that we had before obama's healthcare bill that were made for circumstances like yours, but they were harder to use and abuse. There are too many loopholes that obama has made that allow the "majority" to take advantage of the system, and they will take it, because of the feeling of self entitilement.
 

Dirtymaxx03

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Someone explain to me how the rich get richer at the hands of the poor?

Every American was born with equal rights. Some choose to strive and obtain wealth, others are ok with being average. You cannot sit there and say that the guy, who has woken up at 5:30am every morning, and gone to work all day constantly striving to better his business, needs to share his earning with those that chose to drop out of high school and refuse to get a job.

Wealthy people are wealthy for a reason. They have made sacrifices that others have not, they have taken financial risks that other wouldn't. How does it make sense that the people in the top 5% of the tax bracket, account for over 60% of the money the federal government gets from taxes?


Obama shares the exact same anti-colonial views as his father. He believes Americans are no better than anyone else (despite our god given rights). He doesnt believe in the same ideals that our founding fathers believed in. He pushes equality. America is not about being equal, its about being free to strive and prosper without being held back by big government.
 

jacobdewey

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I don't understand all the hate for Romney. Don't we all want to get rich? Have you ever been employed by a poor person? How long did that last? If Romney lives his religion, he then has to pay 10% on all his earnings minimum. Look up what the mormons do with the tithing they bring in and tell me that he is stepping on poor people to get to the top.

http://mormon.org/humanitarian-aid

On top of that, the church Romney goes to will give aid to anyone, all you have to do is ask, you don't have to be a member, and you don't have to jump through any hoops.

http://rockcenter.nbcnews.com/_news...mormons-stash-away-for-social-safety-net?lite
 

MACKIN

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Sean and that is the problem !

Those that are rich whether they worked for it or inherited it or dug it out of the ground somebody worked for it all be it physically or mentally and they are 100% entitled to it!

So since these filthy rich are in the minority the majority want them punished for their accomplishments. The Robin Hood philosophy is a poor policy!

Bottom line there is just to much waste in spending at every level. Just like every bill that passes like portions of the health bill there is SO MUCH under toe garbage written in to BUY votes that any good it can do is washed away with the add ons sweetener pork barrel what ever you want to call it.

Thats why our economy sucks globally, as our debt is to high the dollar is weak and each and everyone of us so they say is $50,000 dollars in the hole to pay off the federal deficit! So get a second mortgage on your upside down house and mail it in to Uncle Sam ASAP!
 

Maricopaagent

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Someone explain to me how the rich get richer at the hands of the poor?

Every American was born with equal rights. Some choose to strive and obtain wealth, others are ok with being average. You cannot sit there and say that the guy, who has woken up at 5:30am every morning, and gone to work all day constantly striving to better his business, needs to share his earning with those that chose to drop out of high school and refuse to get a job.

Wealthy people are wealthy for a reason. They have made sacrifices that others have not, they have taken financial risks that other wouldn't. How does it make sense that the people in the top 5% of the tax bracket, account for over 60% of the money the federal government gets from taxes?


Obama shares the exact same anti-colonial views as his father. He believes Americans are no better than anyone else (despite our god given rights). He doesnt believe in the same ideals that our founding fathers believed in. He pushes equality. America is not about being equal, its about being free to strive and prosper without being held back by big government.


This is correct!!

What happens when you tax the rich beyond the point of them wanting to make more money???

RETIREMENT! Closed Shops! = loss of jobs, tax revenue , ss payments , and everyother thing that connects to an employee WORKING.
 

D-MAX Mafia

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I appreciate your kindness, especially that which is given to my daughter. I have some of the same concerns. However, for me, I'm truly sick of the filthy rich getting richer at the hands of the poor. The largest segment of our population is becoming poorer and more needy the more that corporate America has power. Back in the day it wasn't like that because the workers had the upper-hand and the was a form of respect given from Executive Boards. Since Jr.'s compassionate conservatism took effect corporations desire to keep the worker poor. Mitt will make sure exploitation flourishes, and you can see it in that cheesy, fake smile of his.

Between this and your last bash against me.... Your lost and hopeless!

I'm glad your daughter recieved what she needed. I also have a little girl and I would never want to be helpless in any situation involving her life.

If you think that Obummer and Biden are not filthy stinkin rich due to criminal acts against America (stealing) and full blown treason, your blind deaf and dumb. Your hero Obama has allowed other leaders to enter this country and tell us how to run this nation. Remeber Mexico?....

Obamacare is another way to tax the people and control medicine. Now the government decides who gets help and who dies. They cant even run the postal service let alone health care.

Obama is a Socialist, in order for socialism to work you need 90+% of the people dependent on the government for everything. We all know this system does not work. You cant have 1% of the people paying for the other worthless 99%.
If socialism is ever implemented you can kiss the American Dream goodbye. The private sector will be all but destroyed and forget about being your own man and doing whatever you want. My father started a business in our back yard in 1997. Today his company is worth millions. Socialism does not support this kind of success. Not to mention that now we get to pay high taxes to support those who are less fortunate. Some may need it but the majority are just lazy, dependent, entitled, wastes of skin and air.

For this I feel that if you are a true red blooded American there is no way you could ever vote for Obama. As far as I see he has done almost nothing in 4 years. What he has done has cost the American people lots of money. He has had to buy his way into almost every vote for your Obummercare. Look at what Pelosi said, "lets just pass it and then we'll read it!" Look up what else is involved with Obamacare. ****in Scary! Obama, Biden, Reid and Pelosi are so far out of touch with what America really needs.

Government run health care is the last thing we need. Allow health care to cross state lines. Put in a checks and balances system so that the hospitals can not over charge the insurance companies. Its like 10-1 vs. paying cash. Rediculous! Make everyone pay taxes! A flat rate of 10% would help a lot. No more being on government subsistence for the entire year plus get money back for taxes you didnt pay! Its time to make laws that make sense! And actually back these laws up. America is on a bad road and your Obummer is driving the wagon.

I'm done.
 

Dirtymaxx03

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This is correct!!

What happens when you tax the rich beyond the point of them wanting to make more money???

RETIREMENT! Closed Shops! = loss of jobs, tax revenue , ss payments , and everyother thing that connects to an employee WORKING.

People forget that our economy is driven by small business. They also forget how Obama's policies and "change" effect small business the same way it affects large corporate companies, however our small business' cant afford these taxes like the corporations can. So all thats left to do is lay off employees. Unemployment goes up. Then, those that are now collecting unemployment learn that they are making more sitting on the couch then they were making working 30+ hour weeks. Now he has ditched all ideas of finding another job because he has learned how easy it is to work the unemployment system.


Money that a company saves from lowered taxes would go directly towards employing more people! Why you ask? Because the people that own that company know that the sky is the limit, they want growth, prosperity, wealth, freedom.
 

Dirtymaxx03

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Obamacare is another way to tax the people and control medicine. Now the government decides who gets help and who dies. They cant even run the postal service let alone health care.

Obama is a Socialist, in order for socialism to work you need 90+% of the people dependent on the government for everything. We all know this system does not work. You cant have 1% of the people paying for the other worthless 99%.
If socialism is ever implemented you can kiss the American Dream goodbye. The private sector will be all but destroyed and forget about being your own man and doing whatever you want. My father started a business in our back yard in 1997. Today his company is worth millions. Socialism does not support this kind of success. Not to mention that now we get to pay high taxes to support those who are less fortunate. Some may need it but the majority are just lazy, dependent, entitled, wastes of skin and air.

For this I feel that if you are a true red blooded American there is no way you could ever vote for Obama. As far as I see he has done almost nothing in 4 years. What he has done has cost the American people lots of money. He has had to buy his way into almost every vote for your Obummercare. Look at what Pelosi said, "lets just pass it and then we'll read it!" Look up what else is involved with Obamacare. ****in Scary! Obama, Biden, Reid and Pelosi are so far out of touch with what America really needs.

Government run health care is the last thing we need. Allow health care to cross state lines. Put in a checks and balances system so that the hospitals can not over charge the insurance companies. Its like 10-1 vs. paying cash. Rediculous! Make everyone pay taxes! A flat rate of 10% would help a lot. No more being on government subsistence for the entire year plus get money back for taxes you didnt pay! Its time to make laws that make sense! And actually back these laws up. America is on a bad road and your Obummer is driving the wagon.

I'm done.

Amen man!

My mother got sick several months ago. She was hospitalized for 6 days. When i saw the bill that the hospital was going to send the insurance company, i shit a brick. Her 6 day stay costed $53,000. Once the hospital found out that my mom did not have insurance, and was private pay, the bill was magically $14,000. Thats the problem with our healthcare system.
 

rtcook

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I appreciate your kindness, especially that which is given to my daughter. I have some of the same concerns. However, for me, I'm truly sick of the filthy rich getting richer at the hands of the poor. The largest segment of our population is becoming poorer and more needy the more that corporate America has power. Back in the day it wasn't like that because the workers had the upper-hand and the was a form of respect given from Executive Boards. Since Jr.'s compassionate conservatism took effect corporations desire to keep the worker poor. Mitt will make sure exploitation flourishes, and you can see it in that cheesy, fake smile of his.

Bush was not a conservative at all. The media might claim that but a conservative believes in smaller government. I havent really liked any president since I've been voting.
Also, how did you like Obama giving $500,000,000 of our tax dollars to Solyndra(sp?) and them along with a bunch of other green companies went bankrupt? That money sure would've been handy for me a few times.:thumb:

One more thing,I have almost got a tear in my eye reading all your alls comments,lol and hearing the passion you have for this GREAT COUNTRY:patriot: and the desire to get it back to what our fore fathers intended it to be
 

Gmax84

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Since everyone is sharing opinions, I'm quoting this statement as being in the top five of stupidest statements that I have ever read on this forum. I never thought I would write anything of a political nature on this forum, but since it's been brought up...I'm not at all saying that my vote will go to Obama, however, the way that see it is he has brought our men and women back from Iraq and has begun the process in Afghanistan. He has helped introduce a better type of health care for those that need the benefit of having to have insurance. My daughter received a triple organ transplant when she was 4 years old. My insurance didn't cover the cost because she had met a lifetime-maximum already, two years previous to her transplant. If it were not for any social programs whatsoever, she wouldn't have received the transplant probably. She has insurance now because the healthcare bill took away preexisting conditions and lifetime maximums. And yes, she'll be on medications for the rest of her life, of which I could never afford out of my pocket every month. Is the bill perfect? By no means, but it's a good start. It's great that people believe that they can make it "by themselves" in this world and not "be given anything.". However, I can just about be for certain that most have not been faced with a circumstance of being in dire need, having to humiliate themselves to ask for help. Another thing that Obama has tried to do is introduce legislation for change and has been blocked by republicans more often than not, and they bitch and whine saying Obama isn't doing anything to change America. Next, he helped save what is left of the auto industry in America. If you don't agree, so be it. I don't like how it took place and some of the bs inside of the whole thing; however, GM and Chrysler are still alive and employ loads of people making a fair wage. Lastly, the economy, as far as market numbers and employment goes, is way up from when douchebag Bush Jr. left the mound of shit he created. If you enjoyed the wonderful opportunities that Jr. gave you with the nepotistic failure of what he called a domestic policy, you'll most certainly love lining the pockets of the Republican elitist when you vote for the man who won't provide his income tax return to the public.

:thumb:
 

LBZ

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^^^^^^^^ Perfect!

You cant love America and vote for Obama.

IMO, as someone on the outside, you can't vote for any of the clowns you guys have running for the presidency/re-election and love america.

I think Obama came into the presidency and walked into a shitstorm mess left from the donkey that was running the country before him. Not much he really could have done different. But his proposed changes and views he has to try and impose change are a little far fetched and un-realistic or really morally sane.
He did get Osama though!:thumb:
I'd put in a vote of non-confidence and find better candidates to run if I were you guys.
 
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