Info: 1/2" CP3 fuel fitting!!

jmaz268

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Well got my fitting from Scott Today. The Parker store had only got the 1/2" ones in and not the 3/8" ones.

Well here is the skinny, it fits with plenty of room. The oe one has a brass compression washer. The Parker ones comes with a pretty hefty Oring. Thought of swapping it, but wanted to make sure it would seal, but I have no doubts that the oring will work great.

Now the bad, the 1/2" fitting is just that, the ID of the tract is virtually identical to oe one. But there is obviously plenty of material there to drill it out a ways, however if you go to big, you risk structural strength in the threaded area. I'll have to look at how much I drilled mine out, but I went about to the beginning of the threaded area. I'm sure it will make zero difference in performance whether I had drilled it out or not.

Here are the parker part numbers again. For reference, I looked but couldn't find a 3/8 or 1/2" hose barb in a M12 x 1.5 metric thread anywhere else.

1/2"= 68HB-8-M112
3/8"= 68HB-6-M112

Both attach with a 11/16" deep well and are 1.5" long (total length).

I can tell you, running 1/2" through the valley has lots of tight spots and isn't easy to get right. I cut up my return line at the same time and deleted my FPRV on the fuel distro block. So that helped ALOT.

here is some pics..

In closing, don't think many really realize how small the oe draw tube is in the tank, this type of mod is best combined with a sump....otherwise you are still pulling fuel from the tank with a little bitty hole.
 

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coker6303

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So at what HP do you start running short on fuel supply through the stock draw straw and oe filter head/lines? I would assume 750 plus?
 

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Damn you ever clean that thing?? :eek: lol

Its got alot of blood and mostly sweat on it....we have humidity here in IL....with high temps.

So at what HP do you start running short on fuel supply through the stock draw straw and oe filter head/lines? I would assume 750 plus?

I've never really seen a number, but it makes zero sense to upgrade all the times to 1/2" or 3/8" if you are still drawing fuel through a tiny ass tube.

I did mostly to take all the restrictions of up and downsizing of lines to one solid size. Then the sump to eleviate the small draw with the lift pump struggling to push fuel from a small line to BIG line. Which may have caused a low pressure situation.
 

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FYI, the correct part numbers are:

1/2"= 68HB-8-M112
3/8"= 68HB-6-M112

i'm a outside sales rep for a Parker distributor here in Houston. We would sell these for around $3.50 each for the 3/8" and $5.20 for the 1/2"

801 Parker Push-lok hose
3/8 $1.46 per ft
1/2 $1.69 per ft

Just so yall can keep your local guys in check
 

jmaz268

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FYI, the correct part numbers are:

1/2"= 68HB-8-M112
3/8"= 68HB-6-M112

i'm a outside sales rep for a Parker distributor here in Houston. We would sell these for around $3.50 each for the 3/8" and $5.20 for the 1/2"

801 Parker Push-lok hose
3/8 $1.46 per ft
1/2 $1.69 per ft

Just so yall can keep your local guys in check

Scott (blksmklb7) picked em up for me...

Think he paid around 7 for both sizes.....He can chime in on actual costs...

In the pick it looks like an I in the catalog, guess my eyes are getting old lol.
 

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I tried running a m12x1.5 to 8an adapter with an 8an female x 1/2 pushlok fitting but couldn't tighten the fitting with a wrench or a socket so I went with the same setup but in 3/8
 

blk smoke lb7

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So at what HP do you start running short on fuel supply through the stock draw straw and oe filter head/lines? I would assume 750 plus?
I did mine 1/2 from the lift pump in and out of the ficm and then to a 8AN at the fuel block so i could elimnate the stock fuel filter and take alot of bends and small size tubing out of the run



I didn't do AN lines cause I was afraid it wasnt gonna fit in there....and getting a wrench probably sucked bad.
I did the AN fittings and it is a bitch to get them tight

FYI, the correct part numbers are:

1/2"= 68HB-8-M112
3/8"= 68HB-6-M112

i'm a outside sales rep for a Parker distributor here in Houston. We would sell these for around $3.50 each for the 3/8" and $5.20 for the 1/2"

801 Parker Push-lok hose
3/8 $1.46 per ft
1/2 $1.69 per ft

Just so yall can keep your local guys in check
Those are great prices because they charged me almost double and i used my companys discount,Some f'n discount!!!
 

jmaz268

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My main goal was to get the info out there, cause some companies charge big dollars for the same thing, and some are less than what you can get at the parker store.

Paying 50 bucks for fitting is retarded IMO.

If I hand made the fitting in a lathe, I still wouldn't charge that much.
 

blk smoke lb7

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My main goal was to get the info out there, cause some companies charge big dollars for the same thing, and some are less than what you can get at the parker store.

Paying 50 bucks for fitting is retarded IMO.

If I hand made the fitting in a lathe, I still wouldn't charge that much.
I think PPE charges 44 dollars and before i knew where to get them i think i paid 22 each for the ATS fittings for the AN style.Which atleast at 1/2 price for anyone that doesnt know,what a barrgin.
 

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Just a heads up.. we ran a couple hundred of these about a year ago but were unhappy with some of the downfalls of running a 1/2 line into a fitting that can only actually flow 3/8. If anyone is interested in them I will sell them for $15.00 ea.
 

coker6303

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There should be no draw back. The goal is to have the least amount of pressure drop from lift pump to cp3. Everything that involves flow will have a pressure drop. you will have less pressure drop using a 1/2" line to the 3/8" orifice than using 3/8" all the way.

It all really comes down to how much flow you need. too much never hurts.
 

Dan@PPE

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What were the downfalls?

There are a couple.

1. necking the id of the fitting from 1/2" to 3/8" causes turbulence.
2. The 1/2" supply hose now turns into a storage tank. because the id of the fitting is now smaller than the id of the hose the speed of the fuel slows down and has more time to absorb heat from the engine.
3. hose routing is a pain.
 

Dan@PPE

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There should be no draw back. The goal is to have the least amount of pressure drop from lift pump to cp3. Everything that involves flow will have a pressure drop. you will have less pressure drop using a 1/2" line to the 3/8" orifice than using 3/8" all the way.

It all really comes down to how much flow you need. too much never hurts.

Or does it?