OK here goes. Grounds ok. batteries 13+ but with key on little less than 12. starter fuse ok. starter relay getting power on one terminal but does not click or get power to the other terminals. Used jumper wire to get power to fuse and truck turned over. Hooked battery charger with 200amp/12v start and seemed to help the flickering gauge lights and warning lights and radio stayed on. Checked all wires around fuse block and seem to be ok. Do not seem to remember it happening lately but have had "service brake system" appear, I think it was wet whenever that happened.:alone: