Sad to hear you post that Jeff , I have enjoyed watching your truck this last year and have really looked up to what you have accomplished . Best of luck what ever you decide to do , i am sure you will do well at it .
Why Mick, Why????
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Sad to hear you post that Jeff , I have enjoyed watching your truck this last year and have really looked up to what you have accomplished . Best of luck what ever you decide to do , i am sure you will do well at it .
IMO these diesel trucks make nice dd.When it comes to "serious" racing like 7,8,9, and 10 second passes no there not the ticket.Put the pen to the paper,it will have you thinking.
I hear ya Jeff. Sometimes it's almost worse than pulling teeth trying to get support from some of the shops when you have an issue and others are there to help you right away. Especially when you have to cross international borders. Shipping to the UK or down under isn't much more than the cost to ship to Canada so when you order something and it's wrong or muffed up and have to send it back, and then can't get the help of the shop you bought it from, it's very frustrating and gets expensive!!
Too bad to hear about Mick.
He's a pretty cool cat and did lots of innovative things to further the sport. Best of luck to him and thanks for everything he has done for diesel performance!!:thumb:
Too bad to hear about Mick.
He's a pretty cool cat and did lots of innovative things to further the sport. Best of luck to him and thanks for everything he has done for diesel performance!!:thumb:
How old are you? This is the same shit that went on on the late '50s and early '60s. Hot rodding was new then and I went through this stuff then trying to get things done and get parts. Guys dropped out because they couldn't wait to get their parts or specialty work done on time. They grew old and never had any fun. They resorted to lawn bowling with ugly women.
I have had nothing but problems trying to get machine shops to make things for me and manufacturers to do anything.
The Swedish people do not want to work so Setrab makes the fastest moving coolers when the pricks decide to work and many times my cooler is not one of them. The economy is in the shits so when you do get a vendor that commits to a job and a big order comes through from someone else; we lose and get put on the back burner.
The small business man is struggling to stay alive. If things get too frustrating, get out of it and do something else. Crying and bitching get you nowhere.
As as far as mick goes; tuff shit. Change your attitude and you might get something.
That is right.
We whiners can just wait for the day when "Corporate America" take over our community and give us the good "customer first" speeches. Why should we have to deal with such issues when we see a problem. After all, we only want to hot rod our trucks and cars with diesel power. Since we want this, we either have to put up with it or shut up or do just as our fathers did. They did it, we should as well. Will this thread or another like it change anything? No!
" tuff shift " for sure.
You all said a guy named Todd got it all... is that TNRgreen or another Todd? Just wondering.
It's too bad to see him get out of it but good grief some of the prices he said he's spent (wasn't the stock truck like $96k US? ) and no telling what he spent on parts and complete built engines and transmissions and so on. Bankrolling his endeavors in the diesel scene was a high order! Kudos for the effort and what he DID get done. It's just toob ad because he seemed to be a stand up ger head like most of us all of us.
C-ya
It's too bad to see him get out of it but good grief some of the prices he said he's spent (wasn't the stock truck like $96k US?
) and no telling what he spent on parts and complete built engines and transmissions and so on. Bankrolling his endeavors in the diesel scene was a high order! Kudos for the effort and what he DID get done. It's just toob ad because he seemed to be a stand up ger head like most of us all of us.C-ya
None of this is directed at anyone in this thread but I think many of the vendors here will probably agree and relate:
Some people need to take a step back and look at this from the other side of the fence. I am often a consumer but run a consumer based business every day. It can get a little tiring when you spend 2 hours on the phone with someone (away from the truck on the lift) only for them to turn around buy the POS kit and POS converter you told them not to buy, to save a couple hundred bucks - thing is you could have gotten them that POS kit and POS converter for even cheaper if you didn't give a sh*t and were willing to sell your customers junk. Then a week later when their kit comes and the "shop" they bought it from can't help them, they call YOU and expect YOU to fix their transmission over the phone, for free - sadly you are nice enough to spend 2 more hours on the phone with them walking them through it while your dinner gets cold. Then 2 months later when their transmission is having problems you spend another hour on the phone helping them trouble shoot it, then they try to guilt you into giving them parts to fix it for free - like you should feel bad that they got "ripped off" by the "shop" that sold them a POS kit and converter - the same kit you told them not to buy the first time you spent 2 hours on the phone with them. Should we even get into the subject of all the guys that don't have actual shops or do actual work on their own truck (if they even have one) let alone anyone else's - but yet they are John Doe's Diesel Performance and undercut everyone else to make a buck or "hook someone up" - these are the same "shops" that we have to pick up the slack for when their customers can't get technical support for what they bought. And then customers wonder why we don't want to waste our time price matching John Doe's unadvertised price to make $15 profit on a deal that takes 2 hours back and forth on the phone with the customer and supplier to take care of - sorry but real shops usually have an overhead (aka bills to pay).
So sorry ahead of time to anyone that gets a hold of one of us at the end of a day full of that stuff when we have just had enough and want to eat our cold dinner - we may be short with you. Even if that's not the case some of us still believe that respect has to be mutually earned - so if you call acting like your money makes your sh*t not stink, don't expect us to kiss your feet - respect can't be bought, at least not from respectable people.
Some people need to take a step back and look at this from the other side of the fence. I am often a consumer but run a consumer based business every day. It can get a little tiring when you spend 2 hours on the phone with someone (away from the truck on the lift) only for them to turn around buy the POS kit and POS converter you told them not to buy, to save a couple hundred bucks - thing is you could have gotten them that POS kit and POS converter for even cheaper if you didn't give a sh*t and were willing to sell your customers junk. Then a week later when their kit comes and the "shop" they bought it from can't help them, they call YOU and expect YOU to fix their transmission over the phone, for free - sadly you are nice enough to spend 2 more hours on the phone with them walking them through it while your dinner gets cold. Then 2 months later when their transmission is having problems you spend another hour on the phone helping them trouble shoot it, then they try to guilt you into giving them parts to fix it for free - like you should feel bad that they got "ripped off" by the "shop" that sold them a POS kit and converter - the same kit you told them not to buy the first time you spent 2 hours on the phone with them. Should we even get into the subject of all the guys that don't have actual shops or do actual work on their own truck (if they even have one) let alone anyone else's - but yet they are John Doe's Diesel Performance and undercut everyone else to make a buck or "hook someone up" - these are the same "shops" that we have to pick up the slack for when their customers can't get technical support for what they bought. And then customers wonder why we don't want to waste our time price matching John Doe's unadvertised price to make $15 profit on a deal that takes 2 hours back and forth on the phone with the customer and supplier to take care of - sorry but real shops usually have an overhead (aka bills to pay).
So sorry ahead of time to anyone that gets a hold of one of us at the end of a day full of that stuff when we have just had enough and want to eat our cold dinner - we may be short with you. Even if that's not the case some of us still believe that respect has to be mutually earned - so if you call acting like your money makes your sh*t not stink, don't expect us to kiss your feet - respect can't be bought, at least not from respectable people.
Like I said it wasn't directed at anyone in this thread or this situation, was just trying to make some people think about things from the other point of view.
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GMC_2002_Dmax
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It all went downhill 4-5 years ago when the E-Bay whores lowered the pricing on everything................
The average consumer will try to save $5 and then you are right, will call you up when they have problems from the online whore-vendor who is undercutting everyone and offers no service after the sale.........
But people don't ever learn, they call and want it now and if you miss the call and then call them back they already bought from someone else because they were impatient..........
I do not bother anymore with trying to deal with all the BS, I have one product/service and this is what is costs. If you want it here it is, if you don't then that's OK with me too.
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This happens in all types of business not just the diesel hotrod business. I deal with it daily, I would venture to guess that the majority of people deal with it also nothing in life is easy anymore or like it used to be, unfortunatly.
People are always going to be looking to save a buck on just about anything, I think everyone at sometime has price shopped and collected information from various individuals, its just up to you to make the smart choice of what product you go for.:thumb:
Its part of business, hang in there.
People are always going to be looking to save a buck on just about anything, I think everyone at sometime has price shopped and collected information from various individuals, its just up to you to make the smart choice of what product you go for.:thumb:
Its part of business, hang in there.