which cylinder head gasket is best?

messejme

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I have been told by several experienced people to use factory gasket in "C" thickness.
Has anyone used any other gaskets?
Can I get copper racing gaskets?
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super diesel

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I used what mine had as original. I only like to go as thick as is needed because the thicker you go the more material there is to weaken and blow out. I would use the original thickness it came with. I haven't seen to much on the new gaskets yet so I would use OEM untill something is proven. There surviving in most all the trucks if you take the necessary steps. This is just my opinion and is based on what I have seen and tested myself. No stone throwing please.
 
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I used what mine had as original. I only like to go as thick as is needed because the thicker you go the more material there is to weaken and blow out. I would use the original thickness it came with. I haven't seen to much on the new gaskets yet so I would use OEM untill something is proven. There surviving in most all the trucks if you take the necessary steps. This is just my opinion and is based on what I have seen and tested myself. No stone throwing please.

agreed

Copper is availible and is best when sealing is top priority.

Just curious, have you ever ran these? I have never tried them on a d-max but myself and many friends have had problems sealing coolant with copper, unless you cover them with goop. Not speaking from experiance with a d-max, but rather in general, copper is more for race motors. I perfer a multi layer HG.
 

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agreed



Just curious, have you ever ran these? I have never tried them on a d-max but myself and many friends have had problems sealing coolant with copper, unless you cover them with goop. Not speaking from experiance with a d-max, but rather in general, copper is more for race motors. I perfer a multi layer HG.


i agree copper is, or should be for racing only. thats why i said when sealing is top prority.
in a dd truck your right mls is much more effective.

Personally i have copper gaskets on my race d-max and o-rings as well.

plus i dont have to seal coolant........my block is filled up 100% so the coolant pasages can be solid.
 
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i agree copper is, or should be for racing only. thats why i said when sealing is top prority.
in a dd truck your right mls is much more effective.

Personally i have copper gaskets on my race d-max and o-rings as well.

plus i dont have to seal coolant........my block is filled up 100% so the coolant pasages can be solid.

makes sense, just trying to apply general theory, I would love if they would work, which they may, but like I said I have had bad luck with gassers. Only way we could get them to seal was by covering them with goop, tq them, heat the heads and then reTQ. They did work great after that but I perfer to run gaskets dry.



Has anyone tried runing an o-ring with the stock gaskets?
 

super diesel

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Has anyone tried runing an o-ring with the stock gaskets?[/QUOTE]

IIRC, Merchant tried something like this on Nasty G. (remember the vid where it was blowing coolant from the overflow). I think they were Cometic with the seal ring in it. After that I herd he went back to the stockers. Could be wrong, but this is what I remember hearing from either Eric or Kieth. The stockers with the ring may work better. Is there a need for this? Don't know:dontknow:. I haven't herd anything yet that this is a problem even with the big boost folks. I only run between 50-55psi. No problems.
 
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I dont agree with the "C " gasket thing. It should be a safe choice for most engines but I think that uusing the proper gaskets and keeping the quench tight is a good thing. FWIW my motor was setup to use the thinnest gasket possible.
 

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I dont agree with the "C " gasket thing. It should be a safe choice for most engines but I think that uusing the proper gaskets and keeping the quench tight is a good thing. FWIW my motor was setup to use the thinnest gasket possible.

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Everyone i talked to said use "C" grade..so right or wrong that is the one i used.


Ask them Why they choose C? If they say " cause" go with JBs advice:D

Idealy you would not run a gasket, but it wont work:( IMO use a gasket that is thin enough and thick enough:)
 
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I dont agree with the "C " gasket thing. It should be a safe choice for most engines but I think that uusing the proper gaskets and keeping the quench tight is a good thing. FWIW my motor was setup to use the thinnest gasket possible.

I always wondered about quench on a diesel but if it is a concern the last thing you would want to do is cut the top of the piston, rather just the bowl. But then again this is just my gasser knowhow
 

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Ask them Why they choose C? If they say " cause" go with JBs advice:D

Idealy you would not run a gasket, but it wont work:( IMO use a gasket that is thin enough and thick enough:)

Just throwing this out there but in the Cummins world it is pretty common to use the .020 thicker marine gasket.
 

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I always wondered about quench on a diesel but if it is a concern the last thing you would want to do is cut the top of the piston, rather just the bowl. But then again this is just my gasser knowhow

Us Turbo Buick guys think alike.:hug:

Tight quench is a good thing in any engine IMHO. Keep the air in fuel where it can be burnt. The only good reasons IMHO to cut the top of the piston are that quench was to tight or valve clearence. I dont reccomend facing the entire top of the piston for valve clearnece or lowering compression. I had to skim the tops of my pistons to get the pop up right so I could use the thinnest gasket possible. I cut pockets for the valves. A lot more work but a better result.

A thinner gasket has less surface area directly in contact with the heat and pressure from the cylinder. Which should help it live longer in my crusty mind.
 
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Us Turbo Buick guys think alike.:hug:

Tight quench is a good thing in any engine IMHO. Keep the air in fuel where it can be burnt. The only good reasons IMHO to cut the top of the piston are that quench was to tight or valve clearence. I dont reccomend facing the entire top of the piston for valve clearnece or lowering compression. I had to skim the tops of my pistons to get the pop up right so I could use the thinnest gasket possible. I cut pockets for the valves. A lot more work but a better result.

A thinner gasket has less surface area directly in contact with the heat and pressure from the cylinder. Which should help it live longer in my crusty mind.

Makes perfect sence to me:D
 

messejme

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Hey I was just following your motto SD:p Why did you do your rods?

Well the old gaskets were the first generation crimped gaskets of which are no longer used Was there a problem with them? Will I have the same problem with the newer riveted gaskets? My old gaskets were "B" for the left bank and "C" for the right.:nanawrench: