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MACKIN

MACKIN

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When I had my truck aligned with the Sleeves they never even asked about them. I think they figured it out all on their own. This was a Alignment shop that did or do alignments on big ass trucks also. I would think anyone with common sense can say it''s basically a jam nut as described. What else could it be?
 
Chevy1925

Chevy1925

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DPC said:
The straight center links also cause a lot of "bump steer". You can see it when you jack the front of your truck up and let the suspension hang. The wheels look like they are pointing at each other. As you let the truck down the wheels go back to the correct toe.

So if you get your truck aligned and decide to crank up your torsion bars it is going to change your toe.
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And the stock steering does the same as well, the straight link only exaggerates it and really makes you feel/see it. i truly hate our steering, everything we do to it only puts a bandaid on the situation. Unfortunatly, without moving the motor back and creating new mounts for the idler/pitman arm, you cant fix it correctly.

whats funny is a tech could spend all day on your front alignment, go out and test drive it and throw it back on the rack to double check and id put money your toe has changed by 1-2* from where it was set. Specially if your front end is leveled or your front end has been decranked to the point that the LCA is level with the ground. will YOU notice that 1-2*s? nope and neither will your tires.
 
chevyburnout1

chevyburnout1

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MACKIN said:
When I had my truck aligned with the Sleeves they never even asked about them. I think they figured it out all on their own. This was a Alignment shop that did or do alignments on big ass trucks also. I would think anyone with common sense can say it''s basically a jam nut as described. What else could it be?
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I totally agree. Its not rocket science. However if you deal with the service writers up front, they can be a bunch of idiots.

Chevy1925 said:
whats funny is a tech could spend all day on your front alignment, go out and test drive it and throw it back on the rack to double check and id put money your toe has changed by 1-2* from where it was set. Specially if your front end is leveled or your front end has been decranked to the point that the LCA is level with the ground. will YOU notice that 1-2*s? nope and neither will your tires.
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I've definitely noticed that, especially how much I have mine cranked up. Set the toe close and hope like hell the steering wheel is straight.
 
x MadMAX DIESEL

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chevyburnout1 said:
I totally agree. Set the toe close and hope like hell the steering wheel is straight.
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I agree on the jam nut thing. My steering wheel isnt level when I'm going straight and it is annoying. I think the alignment shop should make sure it is before it is aligned. If thats waht your talking about?
 
chevyburnout1

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The alignment shop should verify their repairs afterwards regardless. If the steering wheel isn't straight, time to re-due it. What I was saying about setting it close was some trucks, especially mine, you can't set the toe exactly on specs. You breathe on the tire and the toe specs changes haha.
 
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chevyburnout1 said:
The alignment shop should verify their repairs afterwards regardless. If the steering wheel isn't straight, time to re-due it. What I was saying about setting it close was some trucks, especially mine, you can't set the toe exactly on specs. You breathe on the tire and the toe specs changes haha.
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Ohh i gotcha, btw your engine wiring looks sweet. I just saw that thread on DP or DF today :thumb:
 
McRat

McRat

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Next time I do Casper's alignment, I'll post a tutorial about how to do toe-in so the steering wheel is straight (I usually do it in a dirt field in the middle of nowhere right before a race).

When you raise or lower the suspension, the toe will change. So it's something most folk will run into.
 
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