all the guns mentioned are centerfire and you are talking about a rimfire round (17HMR) or are you talking about the .17 rem fireball?
i have a 17hmr and i love it but it is completly worthless after 150 yards also 17 grain rounds are like tissue paper in the wind the HMR is really only good for house cat sized varments or punching paper and thats all i really do with it