All you know is what you read off a brocure and what has been fed to you. didn't you go off the deep end on another subject where you were banned?
You need a life; get one.
All the top name oils are great and you won't make a mistake choosing one. We all have our favorite oils because we experienced no problems using them. This does not mean yours is better.
I just remembered. you were the dick that was telling everyone you used Amsoil and changed your oil every 30,000 miles. WTF? What happened? Oil got a little dirty at that mileage? Let's hear it Richard.
Nope, not 30,000, I thought it was 60,000 but after a review of what I was actually doing, uno, owning a bypass filter system that holds 3 quarts of oil, plus adding a quart every 10,000 miles, I soon realized that I was changing the effin oil all the time. Hmmm. Learned about that too.
I clearly stated that any oil is decent oil, and if changed frequently would never be a bad choice. What I am trying to illustrate and is BEING PROVEN right now, is that if there is something out there being made, that is used for the same equipment as the Rotella's and Delo's and Mobile 1s of the world, but yet after say 10,000 miles of use, STILL be a better oil than what you start out with out of the bottles mentioned above, then why would a reasonable person like to learn a little more about why that is? So, I did. I wanted to learn and I spent all last year asking questions of experts, like people using many different brands of oils, and learning what they knew about each. I found that the common theme I was hearing from Schaeffer's users was how little they spent on replacing parts. Like those expensive parts on excavators and dozers and skid steers.
So I went deeper into and learned about this Moly and some other things that oil companies use, like PTFE and what not. I was interested in it and all along I was learning just how bad that the company I was using at the time, AMSOIL, was flat out lying to me.
Then I got a call from a bass fisherman in Alabama that I used to sponsor, and he had heard that I was thinking about using Schaeffer's. So he called and told me that his family, that own a very large landscaping business in Birmingham had been using Schaeffer's for going on 20 years. They own about 15 diesel trucks, 20 some trailers that hauls mini excavators, tractors, graders, something like 30 pieces of equipment that are all over $100,000 each. He was telling me how they used oil analysis offered from Schaeffer's and they monitored their equipment with them and they were getting 750 to 1000 hours per oil change on the excavators and some pieces were doing annual changes. He had said that he can not calculate how much money they had saved, just on the equipment, let alone the trucks. He told me most of the oil changes on the trucks were all over 20,000 miles using Napa filters, not even the Amsoil filter that Amsoil says when used with their oil can get 25,000 miles per change. He says it was close to $30,000 a year they saved on oil changes.
Mike L, I dont give a FU%$ what you think of me or how great thou art, or whatever, but when a guy I had known on a professional relationship calls me out of the blue and tells me what he is seeing in his own families business, I take notice. Not because Mike L says to only use Citgo Fluids or whatever you want used.
Recently I was also made aware of a test that was going on with a mahor trucking company that one of the execs had seen a Schaeffer's presentation. They wanted to see about this for themselves so they did a long term test in a controlled way to track, oil change intervals, via oil analysis, repair costs, fuel economy, and "normal" wear and tear.
So they set up a number of trucks to be totally switched to Schaeffer's and even using the fuel treatments and then tracked their performance gains if any, how many liles, etc and logged everything. After the term, I think was 18 months or 2 years. They presented the finding to the main execs. What was found was that the Schaeffer's trucks gained 5% increase in fuel economy. The oil changes were bumped up 2.5 times less frequently than in the other brands test trucks. That means that if a truck was normally changed at 10,000, then that same truck with Schaeffer's went to 25,000. And the biggie, repair costs on mechanical parts that require lubrication (ball joints, u Joints, etc) was cut 80%. OMG!
This company has 4,000 trucks and over the next 12 months, all of them will be converted to Schaeffer's as one of the largest EVER trucking tests performed proved that WHAT BRAND of oil used makes a difference. That company is Prime Inc. I am sure you have heard of them. They will not release the actual data to the public, because companies that large need every competitive advantage with the high cost of fuel, but with 4,000 trucks a 1% increase in fuel economy is like millions of dollars a year, let alone 5%.
Isnt saving money what it is all about?? Having superior protection at a cost savings is the name of the game. I would think that is why Shell buys their drill rig lube from Schaeffer's. I would assume that it means that Shell is SAVING Money and using drill bits longer than their competitors. It would get me to thinking that there may be more to the story than what YOU are fed or see on TV.
GM, John Deere, FORD, Chrysler, CAT, Kubota,Hitachi, Peterbuilt, ALLISON, et all, are all in the PARTS business. They also all wnat you to use THEIR greases and oils. Hmmm, that alone should raise a red flag about needing to look into this farther.
So if an Allison rep walked into a tranny shop and said hey Mike we came out with a new fluid and we recommend using it in our 2013 transmissions and the warranty is 50,000 miles. You can better take it to the bank that the fluid is just good enough to get the tranny past that on the law of averages. After that, Allison gets to sell parts. Or if a Schaeffer rep walks in and says, Hey Mike, do you do warranties on your transmissions you build? Yep, sure do. Well I got a fluid for you. You can run this in those transmissions and cut your warranty expense in half or more. And we can say this because we have dozens of places using it and this is what they see, and lay out names and numbers of places that use it and shows what they used to spend on warranty replacement parts and what they do now, and see that it is a HUGE difference. I would take it seriously. There has to be something to it, if businesses just like yours are doing it and have been for decades.
Good Luck Mike, I still respect your opinion, no matter what names you come up with. I am sure you keep plenty of transmission parts on hand to repair things that go wrong on your builds. I am sure most of them are needed after the warranty period has passed. But hey, You the MAN!
I learned about something new with an open mind, can you?
I have a life dude, You have no idea what I do on a daily basis. Some days I do have time to be a keyboard jockey. Most times I do not, been really busy here the past few weeks going all over the place.
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