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TheBac

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To complete my earlier thought:

I think Macy's and Kohl's (definitely) will weather whatever Amazon throws at them b/c they have a well-received net presence with their customers. That's carrying their stores.

As to this:
So as they help put "brick and mortar" stores out of business they generate a tremendous amount of jobs not only in the warehouse but to support the warehouses as well.
I have to ask, how much do those warehouse and support jobs pay? Same/better than the jobs that are lost, or less? Benefits? (this would be a huge plus)

I hear Michigan is in prime ;) position to land the new Amazon HQ. They claim 50,000 jobs (which I think is a bit optimistic), but even if its half that, this state could really use that kind of good news.
 

AZlml

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They're making another headquarters somewhere in the US and said it will be 10's of thousands of jobs most of which are 6 figure jobs. I pay less than$60 month for medical,dental,vision etc and it's great insurance and is available to every employee. Entry level no experience warehouse work is $12.50 (AZ min wage $10). Having education obviously gets you a better position/pay and the opportunities for promotions are endless. Support roles as far as office work and logistics and stuff not dealing with putting an item in a box starts at like 45k. Wherever they put their new HQ it will thrive. The amount of discounts and programs for employees directly impacts the community because it's for entertainment and food and lifestyle things.

I can rant forever but the company I work for treats me very well and pays me very well. Maybe it's not for everyone but you should definitely enjoy your job, I do.
 

Ne-max

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Until they enforce taxs on online purchase we will keep seeing stores close like crazy. As a business owner it makes it a pain in the ass. Customer service only goes so far when you have to charge 7.25% tax and meet map pricing.
 

TheBac

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Thanks AZ. It looks like there are possibilities for people if they lose their "brick and mortar" job.
We'll see what happens with the HQ. Michigan could use the job opportunities.


NE, yes you are correct on taxes. But what's the answer to that? The Feds would have to get involved with new law, wouldnt they?
 

Whitetail Addict

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I worked for an Amazon warehouse one summer during college. I hated it. I try not to buy anything from them.

They treated every employee like they were an idiot (catered to the lowest common denominator), "safety" was preached so much that it hindered your job (I was stopped in the middle of my job many times and asked to show "proper lifting" and stupid shit not pertaining to my job... but they couldn't provide me with extended forks for oversize skids, I was told to use the small forks and drag it, yeah because that's safe (they eventually ordered forks)), yet the only thing they really cared about was their inventory (as was evidenced by the fact metal detectors were only used on the exits... anybody could get in and cause harm to employees if they wanted but every employee had to file through the detectors like cattle four times/day so you couldn't take their merchandise out). Then I got told I had to take my 15 minute break in the lunch room (which was 5 minutes of walking to the metal detector, 5 minutes of break, and 5 minutes to be back on the floor. I told them where they could put that idea.

Needless to say, it wasn't for me.
 

zakkb787

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I worked for an Amazon warehouse one summer during college. I hated it. I try not to buy anything from them.

They treated every employee like they were an idiot (catered to the lowest common denominator), "safety" was preached so much that it hindered your job (I was stopped in the middle of my job many times and asked to show "proper lifting" and stupid shit not pertaining to my job... but they couldn't provide me with extended forks for oversize skids, I was told to use the small forks and drag it, yeah because that's safe (they eventually ordered forks)), yet the only thing they really cared about was their inventory (as was evidenced by the fact metal detectors were only used on the exits... anybody could get in and cause harm to employees if they wanted but every employee had to file through the detectors like cattle four times/day so you couldn't take their merchandise out). Then I got told I had to take my 15 minute break in the lunch room (which was 5 minutes of walking to the metal detector, 5 minutes of break, and 5 minutes to be back on the floor. I told them where they could put that idea.

Needless to say, it wasn't for me.

Sounds pretty typical to me. I'd say 99% of the crap treatment and safety overload came from stupid employees stealing constantly like the dirt bags humans have came to be. As well as someone hurting their back or something and suing the crap out of the company for their own stupidity. For each effect there is a cause.
 

OregonDMAX

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I worked for an Amazon warehouse one summer during college. I hated it. I try not to buy anything from them.

They treated every employee like they were an idiot (catered to the lowest common denominator), "safety" was preached so much that it hindered your job (I was stopped in the middle of my job many times and asked to show "proper lifting" and stupid shit not pertaining to my job... but they couldn't provide me with extended forks for oversize skids, I was told to use the small forks and drag it, yeah because that's safe (they eventually ordered forks)), yet the only thing they really cared about was their inventory (as was evidenced by the fact metal detectors were only used on the exits... anybody could get in and cause harm to employees if they wanted but every employee had to file through the detectors like cattle four times/day so you couldn't take their merchandise out). Then I got told I had to take my 15 minute break in the lunch room (which was 5 minutes of walking to the metal detector, 5 minutes of break, and 5 minutes to be back on the floor. I told them where they could put that idea.

Needless to say, it wasn't for me.

Just remember it wasn't for you, but it's perfect for some uneducated people with no goals and no ambition that need to be herded like cattle and watched closely. It's no job that anyone aspires to do it's like flipping burgers at McDonald's... Nobody wants to do it but somebody has to.


No how on Earth did T-Swift being on a ups truck have anything to do with Amazon, how did this thread get so derailed... :roflmao:
 

TheBac

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Its just another money grab by people who have no idea what being a "UPSer" truly is. Its not like a company that nets $6B a year needs more, does it? :rolleyes:

I am going to get so fired for this.....
 

OregonDMAX

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Its just another money grab by people who have no idea what being a "UPSer" truly is. Its not like a company that nets $6B a year needs more, does it? :rolleyes:

I am going to get so fired for this.....

In no way do I mean this in a bad way but you are too low for them to even worry about, you wouldn't be on their corporate radar haha

All in all I'm sad to see ups became a sellout.
 

TheBac

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You'd be surprised, Sean....

None of you know me, ok? So if you happen to get a PM asking who I really am....


:roflmao:


( I laugh, but I know its happened before to other people)
 

Chevy1925

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All I know is the people out there looking for jobs don't want to work. It flat out pisses me off when I need to hire people
 

036.6turbo

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To complete my earlier thought:

I think Macy's and Kohl's (definitely) will weather whatever Amazon throws at them b/c they have a well-received net presence with their customers. That's carrying their stores.

As to this:
I have to ask, how much do those warehouse and support jobs pay? Same/better than the jobs that are lost, or less? Benefits? (this would be a huge plus)

I hear Michigan is in prime ;) position to land the new Amazon HQ. They claim 50,000 jobs (which I think is a bit optimistic), but even if its half that, this state could really use that kind of good news.

I even buy my dog food thru AMAZON, guys at work were giving me shit that the kid at PetSmart just lost his job, I told them the truck driver and warehouse workers make better money anyways. The kid from PetSmart needed to get his application in! LOL!

Oddly enough the USPS is delivering most of my AMAZON orders, not UPS (Tom). Even deliver on Saturday and Sunday.
 

Dozerboy

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It's basic economics that Amazon would cost more jobs than they will provide. Otherwise they wouldn't be in the business as a cheap alternative to brick-and-mortar stores. They have cheap products and extremely streamline process for delivering those products.

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baggedLB7

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Until they enforce taxs on online purchase we will keep seeing stores close like crazy. As a business owner it makes it a pain in the ass. Customer service only goes so far when you have to charge 7.25% tax and meet map pricing.

NE, yes you are correct on taxes. But what's the answer to that? The Feds would have to get involved with new law, wouldnt they?

This started here at the beginning of the year. Amazon is charging taxes to quite a few states per request and deals with the states. A little blip from an artical.

Amazon’s agreement with the state allows them to keep a percentage of the tax collected, but it is unclear if the retailer will. Utah is the 30th state to reach an agreement with Amazon to collect sales tax.