Taking auto-pilot literally?

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The only problem with your argument Ben is that airline pilots go thru extensive training to learn how to operate their autopilots. Maybe there should be required training before you can use it? I install auto pilots on boats every week, I go thru a introductionary sea trial on every one I install. I have had customers think they can literally go hangout with the family and not pay any attention to the boat. Can the auto pilot do this and run accurate routes, absolutely, I use 3 axis heading compasses and 10 hertz gps antennas and radar to check if the chosen route is clear. Probably, the same technology the Tesla is using, the problem is, there is a human incharge of the system and we aren't perfect. Training does help though...
 

TheBac

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Hmm...I guess Ben got caught up at work. :roflmao:

Another one: http://www.freep.com/story/money/ca...-gallery-owner-survives-tesla-crash/86712884/

Nothing against Tesla, as I think most of this publicity is being driven by a scared Big3, but they shouldnt market this as "Auto"-anything because there's a large segment of the American public stupid enough to think it really IS auto-pilot.

Ben, Im approaching 1.5 million miles with no accidents, so there ya go.....
 

WVRigrat05

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How do you know when "some of the pilots are run the controls" and when its on autopilot??? :rofl:

(I have my pilots license and its still hard for me to tell when im flying as a passenger on a commercial airliner)

Some commercial pilots hand-fly the entire flight, FYI. Obviously its boring, but some do just for practice. As long as the airplane is trimmed up, you really dont need to do anything with the stick and rudder unless you're turning or climbing/descending.


I was meaning during landing and take off. Seems like everytime I fly, it's windy and puking the rain. Some land and take off well even with the wind, a couple, well it looked like parts were going to scatter.
 

Dozerboy

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Okay Bens post made me curious so i ran some numbers. In Houston which is one of the worst cities for accidents in the United States. We drive 102 million miles for every fatal accident. We drive 485k miles per every accident. In my opinion that doesn't speak well for Tesla. But it's not really an apples-to-apples comparison because we don't really have the correct data. I have a feeling if Tesla was in Houston they would be having a lot more accidents most of the miles they are racking up are probably on the open road.
I think the 130 million mile figure is disingenuous. the vast majority of the autopilot driving is taking place on major highways, and for relatively short periods of time. people are still driving the rest of the time. let's find out how many fatal accidents take place per 130 million miles strictly on major highways with human control, then compare that to autopilot.

I'm not saying it's a bad idea, just pointing out that the figures can't exactly be compared.

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I wouldn't say that. It hard to put that large of number into perspective.

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I was meaning during landing and take off. Seems like everytime I fly, it's windy and puking the rain. Some land and take off well even with the wind, a couple, well it looked like parts were going to scatter.

That argument means absolutely nothing.