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[juddski88]

Sorry , just rereading thru this shit storm ......... Let me clear something up for you , you have me confused with someone else , because I did meet Ben and ( not recalling good ) but a couple other guys around him at the escalade . When this happened , I didn't once try to sell any of you anything from anybody ......... Really don't know what the hell your talking about .

You introduced yourself to Ben, myself, and Kyle (dmaxfireman). There was no confusing you, lol

 

[Harbin_22]

When you going down Tim? I will be at Dave's on the 14th of January

 

[GMC_2002_Dmax]

WOW...........

26 adults and kids get massacred in CT yesterday and everyone here has there DICK on display measuring who has the biggest one.

It's sad because I know Tim, Trey, Guy and to see the shit being slung around only serves to make everyone look bad.

I have been on the receiving end of the shit slinging more than once.........at the end of the day all parties look bad.

So boys........put your DICKS back in your pants and move on.........there is more important shit to do then measure your dicks in public.

:thumb:

 

[fishsmith]

WOW...........

26 adults and kids get massacred in CT yesterday and everyone here has there DICK on display measuring who has the biggest one.

It's sad because I know Tim, Trey, Guy and to see the shit being slung around only serves to make everyone look bad.

I have been on the receiving end of the shit slinging more than once.........at the end of the day all parties look bad.

So boys........put your DICKS back in your pants and move on.........there is more important shit to do then measure your dicks in public.

:thumb:

Amen. Just making everyone around look bad. Kinda like the dodge or ford world.

 

[juddski88]

No , try to keep up Mr. Tim , I am saying I have no need to use David to get parts for me at cost , when I already buy at said cost ............. This is not the first time this was said to me , for the reason of not being under DTS vendor status . Just sounds like a broken record .........


You wanna call my bluff Tim ?? Tell you what , the next purchase you wanna make on your truck , pm what you want and I will get it for you at cost, even send you the part and invoice straight from the company , so you know you got a good deal . Then you can be " indebted " to me lmao

Maybe this goes back to Josh's observation that it was once a mutually beneficial relationship....somewhere here you are skirting around the basis of these issues....but thanks anyways for the offer. I too, have a mutually beneficial relationship with a local business, FC Taplin, and utilize his buying power and advertising capabilities to my advantage since my bread and butter is installations. It allows him to keep his hands clean and offer to his customers what he wants to, and it allows me to do what i love.

 

[dmax06]

You are correct. It seems that we never get anywhere with these threads, but I reckon they make for an interesting read for someone that is bored on a Saturday morning. I Try to stay off the forum after I have been drinking, but last night it got the best of me.

Still mad that I couldn't stay up to talk about the transmission I got screwed on, oh well, we will save that for when the next shit storm hits

 

[Stingpuller]

Very interesting

LOL!! what a way to wake up.

 

[emiller3]

X2, just finished reading all 12 pages

 

[juddski88]

I'd love to see flow sheets from all of the current head builder/porters offerings, rather than all of the things they do to the heads. I mean who cares how much porting one does or how big the valves are, a flow bench doesn't lie!

this was the point of my original post in this thread PACougar....however, one thing you stated is incorrect....a flow bench CAN lie....and therein lies my reasoning for stating MORE accurate information than flow bench numbers

How can it a flow bench lie? Of course a person can omit information about the setup they use so the results are favorable, but I don't think the machine knows how to lie.

what type of flow bench is each using? have any graphs from any source been provided to prove claims?

Couldn't agree more with those questions! I'd love to know the answers along with the data.

Kyle, here is the rest of the tech posts..

 

[LWATSON]

Well I'll take that one on directly. I am new to the forums and I think I know why after this discussion. I'm not new to trucks and competing. I'd bet a large majority of people on here don't actually have competition trucks.

I saw you pull at Rudy's event, congrats on a strong running truck! As far as the amount of competition trucks on this site, You would be suprised at caliber of people lurking around on this forum. I know this is a bold statement but I would bet almost anything the average ET on this forum would easily best any other forum out there:hug:.

 

[blackdirtymax]

I am sorry that this turned into such a bitter mess between yourself and April, there is no need for this...but for the record, David tried to keep all of this from happening, because it isn't his nature to get online and go back and forth about personal stuff. It doesn't look good. David doesn't just jump on the board and take a shot at Trey or Hank, or anyone else that often does that to him here. You guys that obviously have bad blood with him and are local, are not the only people in this great country who have been to Davids shop....other friends of mine, and people i talk to regularly from Indiana and Virginia have been there, have seen Davids work first hand. You guys are posting as if he isn't a nationally renowned business...lol, i was getting calls from friends before i had ever even talked to David asking if they should do business with him and i said, "i haven't heard anything either way, so let me know how you make out"...they did, and when David called me up offering his help, i took it, still unsure of his motive. It turned out to be one of the closest friendships i have in this community. It's very hard to find people in this industry who speak from the heart, and i can tell you, Trey betraying Davids friendship hurt him, and this whole thread has brought those feelings to the surface. I know how messy internet vs reality can get when tempers are hot and you start losing grip on "reality" (what you would do if you were face to face with someone instead of through a computer screen), I've dealt with enough of those tempers in Denver. It truly is sad that the quest for the truth got covered up and trampled this much...which is the reasoning for my vacation to Georgia coming up next month. I'd like to set a few things straight, face to face, where you can't tell unknowing people something over the internet and have it be taken as fact just because of your "reputation".
The sad thing here Tim is that you have bought into the hype just like everyone else of his customers. As far as betraying someone's friendship or trust, that was done in the beginning when I was taken advantage of over a turbo and the ridiculous price I had to pay for services that were done together !!! It's not like I dropped off my truck and said , hey, just call me when she's done ! It's sad to me that you are gonna defend and even get involved publicly to Fight a battle for someone you met over the phone. It really had nothing to do with you , but you made it about you. And for the record dont sit here and say David never wanted any of his to happen or David never wanted to to jump here and take a shot at anyone ...... its not in his nature lol , how bout i have kept my mouth shut for going on a year now about the whole situation , guess that doesnt count huh? Guess when people like you that have had their brains filled with a bunch of fabricated lies about me , use them against me open forum , im suppose to just lay down and not defend myself ????

Believe me when I say if you havent been taken advantage of , consider yourself lucky! Good day to you Sir !

 

[blackdirtymax]

You introduced yourself to Ben, myself, and Kyle (dmaxfireman). There was no confusing you, lol

Yes I did talk to you all , but I can assure you , I didn't once mention anything about selling parts to you or anyone else at that track that day ! Again you got your stories twisted .....

 

[juddski88]

I never made it about me, lol. But if that's how you read it, fine. You haven't waited a year Trey, your online attacks on David started right after you opened up "shop" and started lying to his customers so you could start up a customer base of your own easily. I can go back and find all of them too. I have said it before, and I'll say it again: I promote Davids work because it has proven to be better than what i had. I stand behind him as a friend because he has helped me, a nobody, without ever meeting me. It's a two way street Trey, friendship is a mutual relationship. If i have learned one thing most recently, it's that there are fewer and fewer people who understand that

 

[juddski88]

Yes I did talk to you all , but I can assure you , I didn't once mention anything about selling parts to you or anyone else at that track that day ! Again you got your stories twisted .....

Well you've already gone from having never met me to now meeting me but not offering us parts deals.....how credible does that look Trey? Whose stories are twisted?

 

[blackdirtymax]

I never made it about me, lol. But if that's how you read it, fine. You haven't waited a year Trey, your online attacks on David started right after you opened up "shop" and started lying to his customers so you could start up a customer base of your own easily. I can go back and find all of them too. I have said it before, and I'll say it again: I promote Davids work because it has proven to be better than what i had. I stand behind him as a friend because he has helped me, a nobody, without ever meeting me. It's a two way street Trey, friendship is a mutual relationship. If i have learned one thing most recently, it's that there are fewer and fewer people who understand that

It's funny you say I'm doing this to hurt him and steal customers what have you, but I had people I did stuff for long before there ever was a DTS , info is easy to find , go to any if the forums and search ! I dont need Davids "customers" thats where your so wrong. Go back and find all the comments I have said about my experience ............. Make sure you quote all the nasty and caddy comments you and the other cheerleaders made after anything I have said !! I've only made hints at to what has happened till now . Never came and started a thread " How DTS screwed me "



Oh and it's funny now how all this shit has hit the fan , my inbox has pm's saying " they too have been screwed by DTS " that's in quotations by the way .............

 

[blackdirtymax]

Well you've already gone from having never met me to now meeting me but not offering us parts deals.....how credible does that look Trey? Whose stories are twisted?

It's a figure of speech, I'm saying you havent known me personally to ever build a relationship to where one would know someone's character !!! Just because you met me breifly at a race , doesn't mean you know anything about me !! Come on Tim , your smarter than this , I don't think for a second you couldn't follow that

 

[NC-smokinlmm]

opcorn:

 

[blackdirtymax]

Oh , and you know what else is funny , you state that David called you and" offered "his services ?? You state you were unsure of his motive........... The story sounds way to familiar , I can assure you , he got what he wanted , exposure from someone invited to the DPC .


You know , come to think of it , I might just contact one of these new guys going this year and offer " my" services from said " shop" ! Then I will get a couple more guys on here to fight my battles for me .......

 

[juddski88]

It's a figure of speech, I'm saying you havent known me personally to ever build a relationship to where one would know someone's character !!! Just because you met me breifly at a race , doesn't mean you know anything about me !! Come on Tim , your smarter than this , I don't think for a second you couldn't follow that

I know what you were trying to say, and i was making a different point, so that's why i kept on the topic of not meeting me, then meeting me, etc.

 

[juddski88]

Oh , and you know what else is funny , you state that David called you and" offered "his services ?? You state you were unsure of his motive........... The story sounds way to familiar , I can assure you , he got what he wanted , exposure from someone invited to the DPC .


You know , come to think of it , I might just contact one of these new guys going this year and offer " my" services from said " shop" ! Then I will get a couple more guys on here to fight my battles for me .......

Funny part was that there was no DTS parts on my truck for the DPC. Just his generosity and him hooking me up with Phil Taylor