Sold my truck in CO straight piped, new owner wants me to pay for smog situation

THEFERMANATOR

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Since you sold it on craigslist, the copy will remain on your account for quite awhile. I would say since you sold it in this condition stated in the ad, he got what he wanted. He BOUGHT a vehicle that he KNEW wouldn't comply, but is now trying to get something he didn't buy. If your ad stated it was as is, and had these mods done to it, then I would say he got what he wanted. Now he is in a bind and trying to get something he didn't purchase. On the other hand, depending on state/federal laws. your on the hook for removing emissions equipment. So it's a catch 22. Now if you had sold it as an off road use/race vehicle, he would be up a creek. Since you sold it for road use your on the hook for the emission laws.
 

Taylor-34

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That's a really good point and ill def keep that in mind for further use, would have been even harder for them to say anything if I put off-road use, type disclaimer, with violating emissions law I know they can bring that up but that would be up to co state emissions to send me that fine, whether they can get them to or not I'm not sure,

I'm going to drop off all of the mufflers and shit tomorrow before I fly out to AZ to pick up my new truck.. Hoping they just get it all done and then I can say you put it all on I complied but never agreed to pay for it and see if they still want to try and take me to small claims vs starting a shit storm before it is up to code... We will see.. Frustrating none the less because they knew what they were buying and they had a mechanic do a pre purchase inspection which I have screen shots of
 

Taylor-34

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I should have known when the lady was bitching to her husband that she didn't like how far back the passenger seat was leaning during test drive LMFAO:mad:
 

McRat

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From the BAR website....

An Overview for the Used Car Buyer

When a used vehicle is sold in California, the seller is legally responsible for making sure that the vehicle's emission (smog) control equipment complies with state requirements. There is no provision in the law allowing a seller to sell a vehicle "as is." The buyer must submit the certificate of compliance (smog certificate) to the Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) when transferring registration of the vehicle. Without the smog certificate, the transfer of ownership cannot be completed.

This is puzzling. Very recently I bought a 2003 Corvette salvage in running condition from a licensed wholesaler. It was AS IS. Then a year ago, I bought a running and registered 2000 Honda Insight from a dealer AS IS.

Is it that they do not enforce the law, or is buying an incomplete or damaged vehicle exempt?

In any case, if it is Colorada registration, then why does the CA DMV get involved at all? I would think that applies to registering a car in CA.
 

Porno Joe

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I'd drop off all the stuff and then tell them to pound sand.

If the same mechanic did the pre-buy inspection and passed it, how can he now say its no good?

IMO if they buyer wanted to take someone to court, they would be better to go after the mechanic for the $$$, if he "blessed" it as a good truck pre-purchase then how can he now come back and say its not a good truck.

Also, i know it is a crime to remove emission equipment, but can anyone tell me the last time a reg old civilian, non commercial, got a fine for it?
 

Kappa9012

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any lawyer worth a damn would include the mechanic and original buyer. Try to make as many people responsible and get more money.
 

MACKIN

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AFAIK, unless you're a licensed dealer, you are not responsible for:

The spare
TPMS
Seat Belts
Air Bags
Emissions equipment
Etc. Etc.

Today, dealers must have all the Fed safety/emissions in place to sell a used car.


This is what I believe is and should be the law regarding sale or transfer.

This is puzzling. Very recently I bought a 2003 Corvette salvage in running condition from a licensed wholesaler. It was AS IS. Then a year ago, I bought a running and registered 2000 Honda Insight from a dealer AS IS.

Is it that they do not enforce the law, or is buying an incomplete or damaged vehicle exempt?

In any case, if it is Colorada registration, then why does the CA DMV get involved at all? I would think that applies to registering a car in CA.

It was a salvage title and cannot be registered without inspection.