Snow Tires, Truck & Car

durallymax

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Had a warm weekend and the snow melted:thumb:. Cold again now though. We had a big blizzard at the end of December and got to test out all of the new snow tires. Most performed well.

I never knew about modern snow/ice tires until I started working at a tire shop a few years back when still in high school. November rolled around and we started working 7-7 doing 200+ tires a day swapping snow tires on cars or putting new snows on in addition to those just getting new all seasons. I couldn't believe the amount of people who did use them. I thought it was a luxury and a bit of a "belief". Kind of like the 3,000 mile oil change, I figured people just thought they needed them. While I am sure that is true to some extent still, once I broke down and tried a set a couple years later I was sold.

The first set I put on our 06 TDI Jetta. They were Firestone Winterforces. They were impressive at the time so a couple years later I got a set of Bridgestone Blizzak WS60s for my TDI Jetta. That year (2011/12) we got barely any snow up here in WI. We also bought a new Blizzard plow for the pickup that year and my cousin bought a new snow plow. Hoping to get lucky again, I put snow tires on a lot of other vehicles this year. Aside from the Blizzard we still havent gotten much snow so it must be working. Being a dairy farmer, we have to plow, but don't plow for profit so the less snow to deal with, the better although this year we needed the moisture.

The tire dealer I worked at was B/F Stone exclusive so I ended up with a bias towards them and against goodyear. I've now turned into a Michelin fan primarily as they offer some of the best tires for Ag, Construction and Commercial Trucks. I now have us set up with a fleet account through them as well which allows you to buy tires direct at lower pricing with many other nicer features. Their car tires are very nice as well, however their pickup tires lack in traction. They wear like Iron, but we needed traction. Our 2011 had their LTX AT2s and they went for 50,000 pulling trailers and such.

I ended up putting a set of Bridgestone Blizzak W965's on our 03 Dmax which has the Blizzard plow on it. Those tires have been very impressive. They don't look like much, but they bite hard. They just keep going. Instead of digging a hole like an MT they just pack the snow down and drive on top in a way. They don't make the Blizzaks for 18" rims yet so we had to put Firestone Winterforce LT's on the 2011. They also have great traction, but are very noisy and throw rocks like no other. Now with 7,000 miles on them they are showing their poor wear charecteristics which was expected though being that they are Firestones which are known for poorer performance when compared to Michelin and Bridgestone. However the pricing also reflects that as well.

The Winterforces on the Jetta are holding up well on their 3rd year(skipped putting them on last year) and the Blizzaks on my Jetta are also working good. In addition to those I put a set of Michelin X-Ice Xi3's on my Fiance's Mustang. She doesn't let me play with them much (the tires) but the little bit I have, they bite the ice like no other considering its a lightweight RWD car.

The worst part about the winter tires is confidence. While I haven't pushed any of them to the point of getting stuck or crashing due to "thinking I can make it", I am sure the day will come.

Pics are always fun. So I'll post some. Sorry for being a Tire Geek.


Firestone Winterforce's on 06 Jetta TDI

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Bridgestone Blizzak WS60's on 00 Jetta TDI

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Michelin X-Ice Xi3's on 06 Mustang

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Bridgestone Blizzak W965's on 03 Dmax

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Firestone Winterforce LT's on 11 Dmax

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Michelin XDN2's on 07 Kenworth T600. Snow rated tire, performs fairly well for a semi tire.

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Michelin X-Works XDY's on 01 Freightliner. Put these on just before the snow. They don't do very good on ice but deep snow they do alright. Bought them mainly for mud in the fields and such.

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And just a picture of the tractor I spent all night in during the Blizzard pulling cars/trucks/semis etc out. Moved about 30 vehicles with it, pulled out the county grader and even took it down the interstate that night to avoid the deep drifts on the backroads. Tires are Michelin Agribibs on the rear and Michelin Omnibibs on the Front.

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Picture this summer when it was brand new.

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Well its been fun. Thats all for now.
 

chevyburnout1

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I was the same way. Never thought I really needed snow tires as I usually just drove the truck in poor weather. Last winter the gf bought a new car and was deathly afraid of snow. So I bought her some off brand rip off snow tires to throw on her little Cobalt. I could NOT believe the difference they made. That car would plow through anything. As a comparison we jumped in my Deville that had some off brand generic tire. Ended up getting stuck pulling out of my driveway :roflmao:

Now that my truck is out of commission I have to rock the Deville all winter. Took off my 20's and put on some Hancook winter Ipikes. Amazing the difference. Almost makes the car no fun to drive in the snow lol. But I'll agree the confidence level goes up a little higher than it should.

Another thing to point out. I strolled through our local body shop after a few Colorado storms. A good 80% of wrecked vehicles had summer, or just plain worn out tires altogether.
 

minisub

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I have the Blizzaks on the wife's Acura in winter. :thumb:

I sort of split the difference and put a set of Nokian WR G2 SUVs on the Liberty last week. Of course it was 65 here over the weekend :rolleyes:

They handle fine and are quiet, look a lot like a snow tread but are rated for all-season use; looking forward to the return of winter to see how they do...And then of course to see how they last with year-round use.
 

durallymax

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Heres some pictures showing the wear of the Firestone Winterforce LT's. Didn't expect them to be outstanding but the Blizzaks are definately wearing better. Lots of heel toe wear on the steer tires and with them being directional unfortuneatley that cant be corrected, I may rotate them backwards towards the end of the season though if it gets worse. The drive tires are down to 10-11/32 the steer tires are 15-16/32. Just rotated them today. 7,000 miles on them so far.

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durallymax

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I've rotated my directional tires backwards as well. I hate seeing tires wear poorly.

I rotate everything. People look at me funny when Im doing some of the rotations.

I rotate the skid steer tires as we do ablot of scraping which wears the rears down fast.

Rotate the front tires on the big tractors side to side and run the backwards in the summer.

And I rotate the semi tires in an x on each side (FRO-RRI, FRI-RRO, etc). This requires breaking the tires down in order to keep the shiny wheels out but it ensures the best wear as the rear drives wear much faster than the front drives and the inside shoulder of the inside tires wears faster from the negative camber when loaded.


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