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[ROGUE GTS]

Not to be a smart ass but you make a saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaafe bit more than the person you know whos a millionaire? So your a millionaire? Damn! youd think youd have better taste than a Dodge Viper.:rofl:

Actually, if you count the value of the property I own that's paid for, yes I am. I am a cash kinda guy and don't like to be highly leveraged. What can I say, i'm not a credit card $40k/yr millionaire.

Though my buddy does drive his Murci to school (getting his Ph.D.) and that's a life I could get used to.

Maybe I did apply myself more at a younger age in an attempt to enjoy life when i'm older, I dunno, I don't ever want to be forced to break my balls at 50+ for pennies.


Despite all the engineering jokes, it is a constant state of revisions. Mostly undue to "value engineering", we're always playing the game of how we want to do it, vs. what the client is willing to pay for.

You honestly think everything built is done to the best abilities of the designer? Most of the time it's 50% quality and 50% cost cutting b/s.

But at least I have the experience of actually building a few things that I get to play in the R&D lab with a bunch of crazy expensive equipment and get paid to build then destroy things.

We may "revise" things, but yesterday with some "revisions" I was able to cut 17% from the material used and end up with a structurally stronger end product. As the old hand-man joke goes. It's a $300 charge to fix your squeaky floor. $1 for the screw, and $299 because I know where to put it to fix the problem.

:rofl:

 

[WolfLMM]

Actually, if you count the value of the property I own that's paid for, yes I am. I am a cash kinda guy and don't like to be highly leveraged. What can I say, i'm not a credit card $40k/yr millionaire.

Though my buddy does drive his Murci to school (getting his Ph.D.) and that's a life I could get used to.

Maybe I did apply myself more at a younger age in an attempt to enjoy life when i'm older, I dunno, I don't ever want to be forced to break my balls at 50+ for pennies.


Despite all the engineering jokes, it is a constant state of revisions. Mostly undue to "value engineering", we're always playing the game of how we want to do it, vs. what the client is willing to pay for.

You honestly think everything built is done to the best abilities of the designer? Most of the time it's 50% quality and 50% cost cutting b/s.

But at least I have the experience of actually building a few things that I get to play in the R&D lab with a bunch of crazy expensive equipment and get paid to build then destroy things.

We may "revise" things, but yesterday with some "revisions" I was able to cut 17% from the material used and end up with a structurally stronger end product. As the old hand-man joke goes. It's a $300 charge to fix your squeaky floor. $1 for the screw, and $299 because I know where to put it to fix the problem.

:rofl:

I'll second that. Im not an engineer yet, but I have done some design work for our company, and yes its all about what the customer will pay for.

 

[05smoker]

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

I don't put anyone down for having a degree or sitting at a desk...hell thats all I get to do anymore, and run around a field a little. I just hate people that think they are worth more based just off the fact they have a degree. Accounting and finance is a tough gig and requires you to be on top of your game if you want to make good money. So for that you must be pretty good at what you do. My friend that I spoke of that went to Penn State went for finance and made the mistake of moving to boston where he is competeing for jobs with harvard graduates

I know you weren't putting me down. :hug:

I have been helping the safety coordinator a little and I always like to go out in the field to escape the office for a while. I like buying the big yellow stuff too. My first project was buying four 627 scrapers for a new job we got.

 

[Turbo Buick 6]

Revisions to make things better are one thing, but I deal with them all day long not to better things but because the design WONT WORK!!!

When I get 2 pieces of duct work in that wont bolt together because one of them is 3" too short and it is built to the print that is just piss poor design. So they send out a revision to build a 3" spool piece that I had already designed and had the men building befor the revision. The print said "revision" but it should have said "I ****ed up big time!!" Meanwhile I have the powerplant asking me why they are paying $4000 and hour for 20 men to stand around:rofl:

 

[WolfLMM]

Revisions to make things better are one thing, but I deal with them all day long not to better things but because the design WONT WORK!!!

When I get 2 pieces of duct work in that wont bolt together because one of them is 3" too short and it is built to the print that is just piss poor design. So they send out a revision to build a 3" spool piece that I had already designed and had the men building befor the revision. The print said "revision" but it should have said "I ****ed up big time!!" Meanwhile I have the powerplant asking me why they are paying $4000 and hour for 20 men to stand around:rofl:

Seen that too!! I built some pieces for NASA's latest engine out of hastelloy, only for them to come back to the shop and say "its too heavy" It was their print I built it by. Again what were they thinking. lol

 

[SFC Cobb]

Not everyone is intended to go to college and many that do should not. They are miserable because they are doing something they don't like but mom and dad and peer pressure caused them to go to college. I wanted one of my sons to go to college and he did for a year and decided that it was not for him and went to A&P school and didn't finish that because it was not what he wanted. He joined the Marines and wanted to be a pilot but couldn't pass the eye exam and ended up a C-130 mech.

He was still in the reserves and he finally admitted that he wanted be a police officer all along. He took the test and was called by a local PD and they sent him to the police academy. He called to active duty when 9/11 happened. After he did 3 tours in the middle east he was released from active duty and is a full time police officer.

He was fortunate to go to work for the best PD in the area and started out in 2001 at almost $40K and is now making over $70K with the OT they get.

I said all this to say that college is not the route for everyone and kids should not be pushed into it because mom and dad wants them to go. There are a lot of college grads on the streets in homeless shelters. There are a lot of grads driving trucks and other jobs that more suited them than working in some office. Many got burned out with the corporate world and are finally doing what they wanted to do after many years of dissatisfaction.

 

[Rhall]

I agree, college is for some, and not for others. Just because you go to a real school doesnt meant your going somewhere. They include the real schools in the averages too.

As for engineers, yea maybe some of its cost cutting, but in elevators atleast, they just dont understand how it actually works in the field, well most of them unless they came out of the field to be an engineer. Like take for example are elevator controllers, for some reason they decided to make them taller for no reason at all, so now their about 7' 2", when the average door way for a machine room and openings on elevators is 7'. So now we have to lean over a 700lbs controller to get into door ways and elevators, when you call and ask them why made it taller they said they have no reason and they didnt realize it would it a pain. Thats just a little example of many. But most of are engineers that are actually helpful worked in the field for years before they became and engineer, which imo is the best thing to do, you cant beat experience.

Theres money to be made out there without schooling also, and there IS capabilities of being wealthy, you just have to have a talent or skill of some sort, and be able to apply it. With my annuity contributions if the economy ever turns and basing on a 7% interest in 30 years, or when im 55 should be over 9 digits. And that doesnt include my 401K, i guess i dont plan on busting my balls for pennies either.

 

[ROGUE GTS]

With my annuity contributions if the economy ever turns and basing on a 7% interest in 30 years, or when im 55 should be over 9 digits. And that doesnt include my 401K, i guess i dont plan on busting my balls for pennies either.

That 9 digit figure doesn't count the decimal places Getting to 8 figure net takes some serious work and luck, 9 is just knocking it out of the ballpark.

 

[Rhall]

That 9 digit figure doesn't count the decimal places Getting to 8 figure net takes some serious work and luck, 9 is just knocking it out of the ballpark.

My bad, i wasnt counting decimals i didnt mean 9, i meant 7. Otherwise over a million, 5am was too early to be doing math.

 

[03Tommy]

The union halls are full and will get worse next year.

According to union halls in missouri they are hurting for workers!!

I chose not to go to college after high school and went to work for one of the biggest trucking companies in the U.S. 3 years later I am the Night Operations Supervisor making about $50k/year to do nothing but sit behind this computer all evening. I am now working on switching jobs in April to go to work for a Refractory contractor to start out as a union laborer and eventually become a brick layer making more than double what I make now. It is a big change because it is very dangerous hard work. On a good note I will be driving a GMC 5500 Duramax/Alli everyday!! I have been working weekends for this company because local union halls cant supply laborers. I did a job last weekend and made more money in 3 days than i do at my full time job in 3 weeks. I am happy i decided not to go to school.