Shiny PYO's

durallymax

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Had some buddies bugging me to so I tried one out to see what it would be like. It's a winter rim(Hence snow tire) so nothing important. Compared the truck wheels, these things are a PITA. To be happy with this I'd need to come back with a lot of cartridge rolls to finish off the holes, but overall it turned out alright, just a lot of work for a little 16" wheel.

It was corroded a bit.



After stripping clear.



After some work with 120 grit greasless.




After getting the little stuff with a die grinder and the bigger areas with greaseless.




Done.





I spent almost as much time doing that one rim as I did these four.






I'd much rather stick to the big rigs.







 

Dozerboy

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Looks good.:thumb: Are you going to clear them with something? Man I hate polishing, but I love shiny things more. Thats why I wax the shit out of anything I polish.
 

gassux

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i'd love to know where alcoa got the aluminum for these wheels. I literally just had my set refinished by a company and they've gone to shit already.
 

Combine Pilot

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I'd like to know what all you used and did to get them looking like that. Mine look like s@&t and I'm getting my truck painted next month. Polishing the wheels might be a good project for next winter.
 

durallymax

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You mind if I send you a set of four that need done? :roflmao:

I guess I forgot the disclaimer Tom, "not for hire " lol.





Looks awesome. Got any pointers for getting a shine like yours on those semi wheels?


Time and tools. I'll explain later.






Looks good.:thumb: Are you going to clear them with something? Man I hate polishing, but I love shiny things more. Thats why I wax the shit out of anything I polish.


I don't clear anything. It gives off a dull look and enhances defects then breaks down a little while later and looks terrible.
I've been trying a few different things to see which I like best for protection. Trying some stuff from Optimum Polymer, their stuff for paint works great. Trying some Shine Seal too. Used to be zoopseal.

It's a line you have to walk. Thick clear will last and result in less work for you but will look hazy and dull. Thin clear will breakdown and shows defects. Bare will give you near chrome show results but it won't last long.




That's really nice work. What did you use to strip the clear?


any aircraft stripper works.




i'd love to know where alcoa got the aluminum for these wheels. I literally just had my set refinished by a company and they've gone to shit already.

The Polish job or the coating? Most of these rims have the coating fail then corrode underneath it, the actual billet used is not bad.
 

durallymax

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I'd like to know what all you used and did to get them looking like that. Mine look like s@&t and I'm getting my truck painted next month. Polishing the wheels might be a good project for next winter.

The basic concept for polishing anything is the same. Remove the oxidation, level the peaks off and the shine will come through. Just have to use different degrees of abrasion. Different tools work better than others.

For the bulk of the work I use 10" wheels of various styles. Different materials have different characteristics. A Sisal wheel cuts hard, whereas cotton can be softer. The treatment matters though too, a dipped cotton wheel can be as agressive as some sisal wheels. The style of the wheel also matters. The amount of stiching and how close the stitches are determines the stiffness of the wheel. Stiffer wheel generally allows a heavier cut than a softer wheel of the same material. I generally just stick with ventilated buffs because they keep the aluminum cool. These are often called "Airways". Then you just need to understand each companies treatment guide and which wheels do what and you can at least get a benchmark of what wheel to use where.

Compounds are the same, every company is different so its best to just learn what they have. All will have some very agressive ones all the way through to jewelers rouge. Some compounds will be greasier than others for different materials, along with other characteristics that may change so make sure when buying bars you choose ones geared towards what you are polishing.

Only use one compound per buff, buy a new buff for each compound. Generally as you progress through the stages you will always be changing to a less agressive buff and less agressive compound anyways so this is no big deal. For example you are not going to get any cutting done with a Domet flannel wheel using an emery compound but at the same time a clear dipped wheel is not going to shine anything with jewlers rouge.

Apply compound little, often. A couple seconds to melt a bit on the wheel is enough. If you see residue on the piece you are using too much. If its hazy you may need a bit more. Rake the wheel often also, you'll get a feel for when it needs to be done.


If sanding by hand you can usually get out 400 grit with an agressive compound and wheel.

Anything more agressive than that really requires sanding or greasless. I use greaseless where a DA palm sander isn't practical like on the PYO's. You apply the compound to the wheel, let it dry, then go to work. Basically a flexible sanding wheel then.

For all of the stuff the big wheel doesn't reach I use little air die grinders with various roloc's, cartridge rolls and other abrasives.

Takes a lot of time, just play around.


Just a few of the wheels/compounds I have.




Greaseless



Its pretty crappy work but rewarding to some people.




For non coated stuff get some acid wash from a truck place. Helps clean everything up and give you a fresh start as much as possible.



Same rim after Acid



It may look even in the picture above, but that rim was an inside dual that had a machine finish and serious pitting/road damage. Took a lot of sanding to get it half way decent. You can see the amount of material laying on the flange in this picture and thats just from trying to get the face looking decent. I sanded all the way down to 36 grit on this one.



After sanding to 400 grit.



After polishing.

 

malar24

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Thank you for the detailed how to. I m still learning which compounds work good and which wheel to use. This really helps me out. :thumb: Can't wait to find some time to do my fuel tanks an wheels.
 

durallymax

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Thank you for the detailed how to. I m still learning which compounds work good and which wheel to use. This really helps me out. :thumb: Can't wait to find some time to do my fuel tanks an wheels.

No problem. I am guessing you are referring to your semi?

Best solution for tanks is Paint. If I ever get anywhere with my old KW show truck that will be my solution.

For most truck stuff you can get good results with a blue treated wheel/emery, yellow starched wheel/tripoli, untreated wheel/white bar and then for the final touch some soft domet and jewelers rouge.

Everything is different though. If you want a decent starting kit Zephyr offers one. I really don't buy much from them anymore but they are one of the few with a nice "kit".

Busch and Caswell are a couple other places that sell a lot of stuff. Jackson Lea makesa lot of good products if you can find the dealers.

This stuff isn't really "mainstream" like many other things and usually involves more phone calls than google searches.
 

malar24

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No problem. I am guessing you are referring to your semi?

Best solution for tanks is Paint. If I ever get anywhere with my old KW show truck that will be my solution.

For most truck stuff you can get good results with a blue treated wheel/emery, yellow starched wheel/tripoli, untreated wheel/white bar and then for the final touch some soft domet and jewelers rouge.

Everything is different though. If you want a decent starting kit Zephyr offers one. I really don't buy much from them anymore but they are one of the few with a nice "kit".

Busch and Caswell are a couple other places that sell a lot of stuff. Jackson Lea makesa lot of good products if you can find the dealers.

This stuff isn't really "mainstream" like many other things and usually involves more phone calls than google searches.

Yeah I m talking bout my semi. Its a company rig so painted tanks is a no go right now. Both tanks have a lot of pitts in them so I m gonna start of with a sander and take out most of the pitting out if possible. The zephyr products work very well for me. That's pretty much all I ve used. Thanks again for the advice.
 

Utahski

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Those came out good. Salted winter roads are tough on aluminum wheels. Clearcoat on my stock wheels looked ratty. And the other set of wheels wasn't clearcoated but it was a hassle keeping them shiny. I had everything powdercoated the same green as the turbos.