LLY: Race tune logging

Sep 17, 2008
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Did some logging on the big tune today. Wondering what stock fuel,stock turbo guys were seeing for rail pressure and what pulse , timing the tune is.
Im seeing 22.5k at about 3200 pluse and 31 to 32 for timing . log started at 15 mph and went to 92mph WOT.

Just comparing what some other guys are seeing thx guys :thumb:
 

TheBac

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3200 pulse and 32* timing? Yowch.

3100 and 28 Id see 22.5K-23.5K max, falling off to ~21.5K as rpm comes up.
Now, with 2400 on the 30% inj with same timing, 21.5K max falling off to 19.5K. Been trying to figure that one out. CP3 may be falling off, or FPR voltages may be wrong.
 

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cmitchell17
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With my lly on a stock turbo I cut back pulse from 3000 at about 2800 RPMs to about 2600 us at 3200RPMs were it shifts.my stock turbo won't flow the air for anything over that.I don't see the point of trying to inject more fuel its just going to require more timing to get the injection window which is just going to be a lot harder on the motor.my stock cp3 will also hold full pressureand I think it would without the lift pump.

Have you looked at the rail pressure current Ysabel in efilive.
 

bluessmax

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LLY this weekend... 2800uS and 27* timing was good for 102mph and a 180hp increase over stock... with 3150uS and 32* of timing and a 2.5k drop from 23k in rail she went 107mph and made 230hp over stock... not sure if that says anything, but that's the results we got.

I agree its damn hard on the motor. Lol.
 

bluessmax

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Timing and pulse I think are the greatest debates on earth. Lol...freakin Charles ran 12.58@104 this weekend on a 2700uS and 28* of timing...so hard to say what works because we upped it to 3150uS and 32* and it ran 12.60@106 (60 obviously wasn't as good)...just goes to show how unpredictable it is from truck to truck. On the dyno just for testing from 32* of timing to 34* there was no increase in hp, but a 50hp gain on tq...obviously not worth it for me!
 

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cmitchell17
Sep 8, 2008
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When you cut back pulse where you don't need it above 3000rpms you don't have to run the scary timing numbers at least not at higher rpms.
 

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Funny you started this thread, I was just about to ask the same question. I logged my race tune yesterday and my desired rail pressure was 26,### and my rail pressure was 25,###. I was kind of wondering the same thing about how much rail pressure. I will have to look at the logs for timing and the other stuff. Can someone explain to me what timing is? and why it's important?
 

GMC_2002_Dmax

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This is my experience the last 6 years with many, many trucks all over the USA and Canada, builds that cost between $50K-$100K, less is usually more,.

What I mean is the less risks you take the more benefits you yield, nobody wants to see their motor pop or have a window in it.

There are many "tuners" who are new to this, they got IMHO, their starter tunes from other "tuners" who are also new to this, seems now days everyone with a V2 is an expert tuner.........:woott:........there are also many "tuners" who have been around a while that can't tune a custom build via email, how do I know, because they eventually call me to fix it.

Tuning a stock truck is fairly simple, I could list the basic pw/timing for each model year but that still won't get you where you need to be, every truck is different, the problem is most people don't build a good shifting tune and you can make all the power in the world if it is a lazy POS down low and de-fuels badly it will not be as quick as other tunes.

When you have sat on as many dyno's as I have and spent as much money as I have to learn what needs to happen and what doesn't need to happen then I'll believe what other people have to say.

I posted a long time ago, fuel pressure is "KING" if you adjust the pw for maximum fuel pressure, know how much timing where and when, and get the dam thing to shift quick and clean you'll be doing the best you can.

Anyone running a TCM tune with the torque request disabled is asking for a cooked transmission, that's a band aid for poor ecm tuning !!!

Look for a tuner with a proven record, not the latest guy online with a cheerleading section or fancy website, the two of which I don't need.

Also Cheap isn't always Good and Good isn't always Cheap......:roflmao:

Log your truck and nibble pw down until you get the highest sustained fuel pressure at WOT at the track, then make sure you don't have more timing then you need, once you have that make sure it shifts cleanly at WOT, then go and increase pw at WOT only until you see either mph lower or ET raise up, repeat until you are sure it's not a bad 60ft or some other issue, then stop and leave it the hell alone, it's a race tune, not a street tune, that is why we have switches.

:D