Proposed NADM Pro Street class?

[J Spruill]

guys i dont personally think the are worried about the gaw truck.for years he has been in the buisness of having fast trucks.actually he was one of the first to run a 10 second passyet he never has really been one to show up and race events....as far as stock trucks and bolting on power to get it done,i have had that exact setup and i didnt get nearly the performance nor have many others.there is more to it than meets the eye....

 

[05smoker]

A max effort grouted block Cummins can push 120psi of boost with twins. These aren't what you'd think of as street engines unless you live on a cul-de-sac, and only drive to the end of the street to get your mail.
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Do they have to keep cans of Either at the mailbox so they can make it back?

:rofl:

 

[McRat]

It was said that it was not meant for streetable trucks.
Anybody think this has to do with Gabbys track times just weeks ago, running a kit that anybody can buy, add some nitrous & run with purpose built twin trucks from Georgia.

I think a 6k class street legal class would be the more attractive & less costly to run.

A 2wd Dmax 2500HD RC weighes 6000 empty. You can pull about 500lb off one and still have a steel body and full frame. That would be pushing it.
But you must add a driver and a 6 pt cage (minimum).

Realistically, to avoid people skimping on the rollcage, I'd set it at 6500, but any time you set a weight, you need to have a scale at the track, and few tracks have scales, and fewer have scales that allow 5000lb+ vehicles. So you must go off of "claimed" weight which hasn't worked in the past.

There were 2 ProStreet Fords at least. Gene and Lott. These were street trucks running nitrous and running low 11's at the time.

Let's face it. 9 second ET's for full racecars is not fast by today's standard. What makes our trucks special is that they are heavy duty TRUCKS that go very quick. A Ford Lightning can run 9's and be a daily driver, but it can't tow heavy or get 11 mpg towing.

Any set of rules that takes away the special features of a diesel pickup, makes them less amazing, and little more than a science fair experiment.

 

[Stingpuller]

Fasts trucks

Jess, I don't know Gabby or anything about his truck. I think the guys making the rules are affraid of trucks "like" his that may be fast and still some of there limelight. Maybe i'm wrong and I hope so, but why would one build a class around there own truck and fill good about it? I just wish summer would get here so I could get tuning on mine. Jeff

 

[Noreaster]

A 2wd Dmax 2500HD RC weighes 6000 empty. You can pull about 500lb off one and still have a steel body and full frame. That would be pushing it.
But you must add a driver and a 6 pt cage (minimum).

My truck weighs 6300lbs with the toolbox(approx. 150lbs) & my 285s on H2s that weigh 85-90lbs a piece that are 30lbs heavier than stock. That would put it to 6k right there. Theres atleast 400-500lbs that could be removed with out skinning panels.

 

[TrentNell]

A 2wd Dmax 2500HD RC weighes 6000 empty. You can pull about 500lb off one and still have a steel body and full frame. That would be pushing it.
But you must add a driver and a 6 pt cage (minimum).

Realistically, to avoid people skimping on the rollcage, I'd set it at 6500, but any time you set a weight, you need to have a scale at the track, and few tracks have scales, and fewer have scales that allow 5000lb+ vehicles. So you must go off of "claimed" weight which hasn't worked in the past.

There were 2 ProStreet Fords at least. Gene and Lott. These were street trucks running nitrous and running low 11's at the time.

Let's face it. 9 second ET's for full racecars is not fast by today's standard. What makes our trucks special is that they are heavy duty TRUCKS that go very quick. A Ford Lightning can run 9's and be a daily driver, but it can't tow heavy or get 11 mpg towing.
Any set of rules that takes away the special features of a diesel pickup, makes them less amazing, and little more than a science fair experiment.

well said .

 

[mytmousemalibu]

I am a drag racer, been doin it since i was 8yrs old, its in my family, my blood, my heart!
Thats my main motorsports passion and what i'll be doing with my truck as far as sports go! So im gonna build my truck my way, with whatever parts, weight, etc, that i want! The only rules im going to meet in my build are saftey requirements, and thats more than fine by me! If my truck does or doesnt fit in a givin class then so be it. Aslong as i have my shot at the 1/4 mile. More or less, i'm racing myself for ET at this point! I wish there were standardized rules for us without all the BS and favoritisim towards brands and people but since were a small percentage of drag racing as a whole its goin to be tough to do, IMO.

 

[Noreaster]

Im surprised nobody has built a 1/2 ton 2wd shortbed truck to play with Stuckey & Garmon.

If you want a real street truck that you drive all week & race on the weekends run the NHRDA Super street class
Heads - Up Class w/ Pro Tree
» 2wd Minimum weight 5400 lbs (w/ Driver)
» 4wd Minimum weight 6000 lbs (w/ Driver)
» DOT tires required
» Helmet required
» Must meet NHRA tech requirements
» Must meet NHRA licensing requirements

 

[McRat]

NHRDA makes a lot more sense than other classes I've seen.

 

[McRat]

I am a drag racer, been doin it since i was 8yrs old, its in my family, my blood, my heart!
Thats my main motorsports passion and what i'll be doing with my truck as far as sports go! So im gonna build my truck my way, with whatever parts, weight, etc, that i want! The only rules im going to meet in my build are saftey requirements, and thats more than fine by me! If my truck does or doesnt fit in a givin class then so be it. Aslong as i have my shot at the 1/4 mile. More or less, i'm racing myself for ET at this point! I wish there were standardized rules for us without all the BS and favoritisim towards brands and people but since were a small percentage of drag racing as a whole its goin to be tough to do, IMO.

Yes, that is the way I look at it. Build what you want, don't kowtow to anyone.

 

[Turbo Buick 6]

I am a drag racer, been doin it since i was 8yrs old, its in my family, my blood, my heart!
Thats my main motorsports passion and what i'll be doing with my truck as far as sports go! So im gonna build my truck my way, with whatever parts, weight, etc, that i want! The only rules im going to meet in my build are saftey requirements, and thats more than fine by me! If my truck does or doesnt fit in a givin class then so be it. Aslong as i have my shot at the 1/4 mile. More or less, i'm racing myself for ET at this point! I wish there were standardized rules for us without all the BS and favoritisim towards brands and people but since were a small percentage of drag racing as a whole its goin to be tough to do, IMO.

X2

I just like to race things about the same speed. I also think bracket racing is :gay: If I'm faster and you want to race me then build something faster. And if your faster and I want to win I'm gonna go faster, not ask for a head start.

 

[Dan@PPE]

X2

I just like to race things about the same speed. I also think bracket racing is :gay: If I'm faster and you want to race me then build something faster. And if your faster and I want to win I'm gonna go faster, not ask for a head start.

HaHa... Perfect. Agreed!

 

[LBZ]

Bracket racing eliminates sand bagging-especially when your racing for money!! Your racing for accuracy and set-up then not just the guy in the other lane.

But I enjoy flat out run what you brung heads up racing as well, as long as both parties are honest about what they bring to the track. Sand baggers suck.

 

[McRat]

Bracket racing has it's purpose; I enjoy all kinds of racing.

But we were expecting to run some ProStreet events this year, and it looks like we will skip them if the rules are determined by who they want to win.

It's a matter of principal. I don't need an advantage, nor do I ask for one. If that's what the rules are all about, then there are no rules, just cheat codes in a Nintendo game. Heck, they ignore the rules anyhow if it hurts one of their buddies chances.

I'd like to run Texas again this year, but I doubt it will be at an official diesel event run by an organization.

 

[LBZ]

Bracket racing has it's purpose; I enjoy all kinds of racing.

But we were expecting to run some ProStreet events this year, and it looks like we will skip them if the rules are determined by who they want to win.

It's a matter of principal. I don't need an advantage, nor do I ask for one. If that's what the rules are all about, then there are no rules, just cheat codes in a Nintendo game. Heck, they ignore the rules anyhow if it hurts one of their buddies chances.

I'd like to run Texas again this year, but I doubt it will be at an official diesel event run by an organization.

OT, but what about the NHRDA event in Edmonton in August Pat?

 

[Turbo Buick 6]

Bracket racing eliminates sand bagging-especially when your racing for money!! Your racing for accuracy and set-up then not just the guy in the other lane.

But I enjoy flat out run what you brung heads up racing as well, as long as both parties are honest about what they bring to the track. Sand baggers suck.

Sandbagging is racing, you would hate me then:rofl:


"My honda is sooooo consistent....at 18.4":rofl:

My cars chance of running the same time twice is like lightning striking and it's :gay: that a consistent 12 sec car that runs against me could be called a winner But theres no chainging it so I just run test and tune and on the street

 

[LBZ]

Sandbagging is not racing. Sandbagging is being a dick. Running all out and breaking is racing!!

 

[Turbo Buick 6]

Sandbagging is not racing. Sandbagging is being a dick. Running all out and breaking is racing!!

sandbagging has been around longer than dragsteips themselves. I actually do run with the pedal to the floor, but can adjust about 400 up with boost and timing.

If I only beat a 12 sec car by a car or 2 then his buddy with the low 11 sec car will wanna rum for some serious cash. But if I run all out the only thing that will put down serous money is low 9 or 8 sec cars

 

[LBZ]

sandbagging has been around longer than dragsteips themselves. I actually do run with the pedal to the floor, but can adjust about 400 up with boost and timing.

If I only beat a 12 sec car by a car or 2 then his buddy with the low 11 sec car will wanna rum for some serious cash. But if I run all out the only thing that will put down serous money is low 9 or 8 sec cars

 

[McRat]

OT, but what about the NHRDA event in Edmonton in August Pat?

Realistically, it's probably too close to Bonneville, which is August 8-14, but we will see.