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whitelmmmax

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Not sure if that's gonna make a huge difference. But your angles are still pretty steep. I would also put your tie rod end on top of the spindle mount.
 

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I tried this a LONG time ago (2002). Turned it into unpredictable steering on a bumpy road (would dive side to side without turning the wheel). :eek:

Yeah, talk about a scary ride. My buddy did that.





I have mine mounted on top with 0 issues. Also seen quite a few trucks the same way

You lift wasnt designed to have the tie rods on the bottom of the knuckle mount. Stock spindles dont work that way unless there is a lift mfg out there that flips them for their lift on a stock spindle that im unaware of.
 

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I was actually going do this but my spindle holes are tapered from the bottom up. The tie rod would barely poke thru due to the taper being opposite.:(

Do NOT do this. Even drilling makes it worse cause now you just ruined your stock spindles and will need to buy new ones. It will drive like crap and its dangerous for you and everyone on the road
 

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Do NOT do this. Even drilling makes it worse cause now you just ruined your stock spindles and will need to buy new ones. It will drive like crap and its dangerous for you and everyone on the road

Thanks man. I think my CL is okay the way it is because the wedges that came with the lift. I probably need to lower the truck and put smaller tires on it. Damn it!:mad:
 

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Do NOT do this. Even drilling makes it worse cause now you just ruined your stock spindles and will need to buy new ones. It will drive like crap and its dangerous for you and everyone on the road

Right I was definitely kidding about the drill. Not arguing just tryIng to understand why it would drive like crap and not be safe? I just recently added bds narrow knuckles, but before that I was running stock knuckles with the tie rods on top with no problems. Is it just the differences in the lift?
 

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Right I was definitely kidding about the drill. Not arguing just tryIng to understand why it would drive like crap and not be safe? I just recently added bds narrow knuckles, but before that I was running stock knuckles with the tie rods on top with no problems. Is it just the differences in the lift?

What lift are you running? Flipping the tie rod increase bumpsteer many times over from stock when used on a stock setup. You have changed the working angles of the tie rods and they no longer follow the path the control arms follow which makes toe in and out worse throughout the suspension cycle. Our bumpsteer and toe change in stock form is bad enough, we dont need to make it worse lol
 

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You never used a stock spindle with your lift, hence why you can run the tie rods on top of the knuckle mount. They designed the spindle/mount so you have to flip the tie rod to keep the tie rod in the correct working angles
 

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I could back my t bars all the way out but not change my cv axle angle much. I can run these tires with tbars all the way down. They have a slight rub @ full crank.