Yea I had to hammer it out. I even had to go buy a bigger hammer to get the job done lol. The inside of the race looks the same as the shaft.
Pinion bearing failed
- Thread starter mike diesel
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X2 on the welded diff! Cant go wrong with cutting out the g80 and running a mini spool as well.
Anyone have any input on USA standard brand ring and pinion gear sets? Only reviews I can find are for small jeeps. Nothing behind 1000+ hp diesels.
I did find where a guy said the USA standard brand is the exact same thing as the grizzly stuff but doesn't have the "quality surface finish" that Yukon has. He said it's the same material, heat treatment, every thing...kinda skeptical. I'd hate if I sheard the pinion off.
I did find where a guy said the USA standard brand is the exact same thing as the grizzly stuff but doesn't have the "quality surface finish" that Yukon has. He said it's the same material, heat treatment, every thing...kinda skeptical. I'd hate if I sheard the pinion off.
If you go with that AAM helical unit, call up Greensburg Machine in PA. $575 new, best price I've found. He has good prices on gear sets too.
I'm running the grizzly locker in mine, you can hear it unlocking when cornering other then that I have no issues out of it. I've beat on it for a while now. DHD sells the parts to do bigger axles down the road if you decide to go that route later, keeping the same locker. I'd do Timken bearings you get what you pay for.
Definitely not cheaping out. I don't want to do this again. Just ordered a genuine AAM ring and pinion set. Going to order a timken bearing set and install kit. Still undecided on which locker setup, but more than likely going with the tracrite out of a Dodge AAM.
Sorry to see the damage, Mike. You didnt mention how you ran, though. Do ok?
IIRC, isnt the Dodge unit similar to the TrueTrac? If so, you'll be fine. Damn, Jesse -- $575?!? Good price.
IIRC, isnt the Dodge unit similar to the TrueTrac? If so, you'll be fine. Damn, Jesse -- $575?!? Good price.
Sorry to see the damage, Mike. You didnt mention how you ran, though. Do ok?
IIRC, isnt the Dodge unit similar to the TrueTrac? If so, you'll be fine. Damn, Jesse -- $575?!? Good price.
I was very happy with my track times. I clicked off a 10.72@135.
And yes the Tracrite is just like the true trac but doesn't have an as aggressive bias. I'm finding mixed specs on the true trac, some say it has a 3:1 bias and some say 5:1. The dodge unit is 2:1.
Unless the true trac has changed since2007- 2010. They are junk, had 3 friends 1 had a jeep with a ford 8.8, 1 with a 10 bolt 2006 Chevy, and one with a 8.1l 2003 Chevy, all 3 had the bolts back out of the ring gears, the jeeps was not lock tighted, but I fore warned the other two and they used new bolts and lock tited the shit out of everything, still scattered parts everywhere.
It's definitely not a 5:1 bias. That would be pretty damn tight and 1 wheel peels around corners most likely wouldn't happen. Knowing that guys still can get one tire spinning around corners fairly easily but not as easy as the dodge unit tells me it's a 3:1.
I won't run either. The g80 will just get replaced when the time comes
As for gears, ya did right. US gear isn't something I would run in your truck. Aam or Yukon are better suited. And that pinion of yours is definitely a paper weight. I know I'm late to the game here but I see no one really answered you lol.
I won't run either. The g80 will just get replaced when the time comes
As for gears, ya did right. US gear isn't something I would run in your truck. Aam or Yukon are better suited. And that pinion of yours is definitely a paper weight. I know I'm late to the game here but I see no one really answered you lol.
FML I just noticed this. Is the pinion trashed? Looks like the race was spinning on the shaft.
Ouch, I just seen that, it's toast. Looks like a ford exploder pinion mine was bad about it for a while, until I built it myself.
I won't even consider another g80. Screw that.
And as far as bolts backing out on the ring gear, I'd say that was installer error. I never hear about the dodge tracrite having many issues either.
not everyone can handle one :roflmao: :angel:.
are you going to do the gear setup yourself?
its sorta like setting up a trans except you will be pulling things in and out 3-5 times to get the gear mesh right (time consuming). There is a bit of an art to it but its not too terrible.
if you decide to do it, always do your first assembly with the stock shims/preload first. 8/10 times, its about as good as you can get! specially with a quality gear set like you will be using.
you will need a dial indicator with some sort of base so you can check back lash and grab some gear marking compound from a GM dealer (cant remember the part number off the top of my head but i have a thread here asking for it). A setup bearing for the pinion would save you alot of time and keep you from killing the new bearing you will have bought. the pinion shim goes under the bottom pinion bearing and that bearing must be pressed on. you can see how that can be a pain if you have to adjust it.
when you get the new carrier, if you have a lathe, throw it on there to check and make sure the ring gear surface is completely flat. if you dont have a lathe, take a flat file and run all the way around the surface with it to knock any high spots down.
when you check backlash, check it on every other tooth. it takes a while but it will tell you if the carrier has too much run out or if there is a problem somewhere on the ring or pinion or even the bearings.
some say you need a pinion debth measuring tool but since your going with stock gears, you would be fine without it. ive done plenty of gear installs without issue without one. the gear marking compound tells you alot anyhow.
Make sure you read up on how to read the markings and adjust from there. you can always post here and i or others who have done enough installs can guide ya.
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It's not bad, well if you have someone that knows about them to help you the first time, I know this old man that builds race cars, he helped me with all mine until I learned, the aam is easier because you don't have shims but they are easy to mess up if you don't know specs or what your doing.
You could read up on it for 10 min. and you'd figure it out.