Pilot dies, pass. lands plane

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damn, watching the vid, he follows the path on the approach hes pretty much right on the money that they set him at according to the radar.
 
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thats crazy/awesome.

He wasnt "just a passenger" though, he had a little bit of experience. He did not sound very confident though in my own opinion, no more than probably 75-100 hours of time or so. An airplane is an airplane...if you've got someone telling you the approach speeds, landing speeds, stall speed, gear speeds, flap speeds etc (and have some student time/couple landings and know how to read an approach/landing checklist) theres a good chance you can at least get basically any airplane down in one piece.

King Air's are really nice good sized planes, Ive never flown one but Ive flown a cheyenne which is a very similar airplane, twin engine turboprop.

Im guessing that king air in the video was an older one judging by the autopilot settings the guy was referring to, and I didnt hear any GPWS (ground prox) callouts...

I havent flown in a couple years, been too busy, and this really makes me want to get current again and go for my instrument rating.

ben
 
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That's cool Ben. I always wanted to get my pilots license but doubt that can be done. I like how he kinda got fustrated with atc cause the auto pilot was exceeding the set alt. And they didn't understand what he meant.
 

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Mythbusters "proved" that someone with zero flight experience could likely land a plane with someone telling them what to do. Neither of them where able to land the plane in the sim (they where simulating a jet, I believe) on their own, but with coaching, they both "successfully" landed their "planes".
 

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Wow, That was cool, Not many people would remain that composed, especially with a dead body right beside them:eek: I bet he was thanking god he took some single engine classes at some point. I have only had the opportunity to fly once, in a sesna with the pilot and my wife. Although I did not get to take off or land, I was able to controll the planes altitude and speed for an hr or so while flying over the catskill mountains:D I would love to some day be in a position to have my pilot license and a small plane, but unfortunetly I don't see that happening in the near future:(:)
 

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Mythbusters "proved" that someone with zero flight experience could likely land a plane with someone telling them what to do. Neither of them where able to land the plane in the sim (they where simulating a jet, I believe) on their own, but with coaching, they both "successfully" landed their "planes".

I could see that, but a simulater is not even close to what one would experience in a life or death scenario. I think keeping ones composure would be a bigger hurdle for most then the landing the plane itself.
 

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Guy had some time certainly knew the protocol on the radio. I thought I heard him say single engine, low time, land, or some like that. If you have done any flying at all it helps a ton knowing what the controls do, Guy sounded pretty cool, voice like the singer who recorded the song "convoy" way back when. I wonder what was the deal with the auto pilot that it went above the altitude setting when he first came on?? Use to fly a lot as a kid, buddy and I had a plane when we were 16. Had a 1946 Taylor Craft we paid $900 in 1961. He went on to the Air force, flew in Nam and was an instructor for Lear Jet for new owners till he retired. I flew some in Alaska but not enough flight time and no money to support that habit made me give it up 25 years ago.
 

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Guy had some time certainly knew the protocol on the radio. I thought I heard him say single engine, low time, land, or some like that. If you have done any flying at all it helps a ton knowing what the controls do, Guy sounded pretty cool, voice like the singer who recorded the song "convoy" way back when. I wonder what was the deal with the auto pilot that it went above the altitude setting when he first came on?? Use to fly a lot as a kid, buddy and I had a plane when we were 16. Had a 1946 Taylor Craft we paid $900 in 1961. He went on to the Air force, flew in Nam and was an instructor for Lear Jet for new owners till he retired. I flew some in Alaska but not enough flight time and no money to support that habit made me give it up 25 years ago.

That would be C.W. McCall, or Bill fries. ;)
 
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Guy had some time certainly knew the protocol on the radio. I thought I heard him say single engine, low time, land, or some like that. If you have done any flying at all it helps a ton knowing what the controls do, Guy sounded pretty cool, voice like the singer who recorded the song "convoy" way back when. I wonder what was the deal with the auto pilot that it went above the altitude setting when he first came on?? Use to fly a lot as a kid, buddy and I had a plane when we were 16. Had a 1946 Taylor Craft we paid $900 in 1961. He went on to the Air force, flew in Nam and was an instructor for Lear Jet for new owners till he retired. I flew some in Alaska but not enough flight time and no money to support that habit made me give it up 25 years ago.

Interesting:thumb: I am fairly certain you could get a pilots license and a small plane cheaper then one could competivetly compete in Diesel truck drag racing:banghead:;):D On another note I flew in my first float plane in Alaska this year, Pretty awesome:)
 

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Interesting:thumb: I am fairly certain you could get a pilots license and a small plane cheaper then one could competivetly compete in Diesel truck drag racing:banghead:;):D On another note I flew in my first float plane in Alaska this year, Pretty awesome:)

I was a lot younger then and broker, I quickly getting back to that financial status.:D
 

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in my own opinion, the actual "flying" part is easier than driving a car; I started taking lessons when I was 14 IIRC. Its just all the extra "book work" stuff, checklists, speeds, protocols, radio speak, wind rules, FAR's, etc that is challenging.

im not sure why the autopilot overshot the assigned altitude. The only thing I can think of is maybe he didnt have the altitude captured properly on the autopilot control panel??? Like I said the autopilot's that were in older King Airs in the pre-EFIS (Electronic Flight Instrumentation System...like airplane cockpits that have little CRT/LCD screens that take place of the older mechanical 'steam gauges') era were a little funky and you had to have previous instruction on them to understand them completely...I want to say that was sometime in 1995-1996 that EFIS first started appearing in King Airs???

ben
 

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in my own opinion, the actual "flying" part is easier than driving a car; I started taking lessons when I was 14 IIRC. Its just all the extra "book work" stuff, checklists, speeds, protocols, radio speak, wind rules, FAR's, etc that is challenging.
ben
I agree Ben, but landing is more difficult, especially if you have any cross wind to speak of until you get the hang of it, but the actual getting from point A to B isn't that difficult. I soloed on my 16th birthday and got my driver's license the next day, the parallel parking was way tougher.:D
 
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