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Other than fuel temp does affect when particulates/additives drop out and also the strength of molecular bonds


That's why I did it. But then I got thinking about how much it's gotta hear up once compressed. Plus turning it on and off coasting through the pits to keep the temps down became annoying, so I quit


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juddski88

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Depends on the oil. Temp isn't the only killer of oil quality, but it is usually the biggest.

Avg. Is between 270 and 285 degree F with conventional oils being lower than synthetics in general.

When looking at the reliability and value of an oil, look closely at the NOACK Volatility test results.
 
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Yellow Jacket

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you were able to measure temp of fuel in the rail after the Pumps? i would think after being compressed after the pump there is a lot of heat in it, cant imagine inlet temps of 40-50* +/- would have a huge effect on it! interesting info..

This was with thermocouples right at the cp3 inlets and Right before cylinder head inlet on unit injector(13.5 Deere). 40-50* on inlet was nearly double that on return, exponentially as temp goes up! I've seen high pressure Fuel rails turned purple/blue/gold from extreme pressure and temperatures! It was pretty cool being paid to push stuff to the breaking point, and seeing what failed first!

Unit injection was affected greater by temp than common rail, due to high pressure and most likely, but I'm pretty sure they never wanted to spend the $$ to get a thermocouple capable of 250+ bar, lol.
 

juddski88

Freedom Diesel
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This was with thermocouples right at the cp3 inlets and Right before cylinder head inlet on unit injector(13.5 Deere). 40-50* on inlet was nearly double that on return, exponentially as temp goes up! I've seen high pressure Fuel rails turned purple/blue/gold from extreme pressure and temperatures! It was pretty cool being paid to push stuff to the breaking point, and seeing what failed first!

Unit injection was affected greater by temp than common rail, due to high pressure and most likely, but I'm pretty sure they never wanted to spend the $$ to get a thermocouple capable of 250+ bar, lol.

The study I attached above briefly explains why common rail system performance is affected less, because of time. The fuel spends less time in a volatile state.
 

05_LLY

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Cant go wrong wih the Scheafers, we run their non syn moly bond oil here though we ran the syn for a bit last year but the hot viscosity test after 5 pulls the syn was a point or more lower, I know that that's not the whole story with oil but it has a lot to do with pressure when hot IMO!
 

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Cant go wrong wih the Scheafers, we run their non syn moly bond oil here though we ran the syn for a bit last year but the hot viscosity test after 5 pulls the syn was a point or more lower, I know that that's not the whole story with oil but it has a lot to do with pressure when hot IMO!


I ran just the 7000, what model is that ?


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